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How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
(November 14, 2016 at 9:10 am)Edward John Wrote: I don't know why I am still going with this,

I think we all know why you're still going on with this.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
(November 14, 2016 at 8:29 am)Edward John Wrote:
Quote:Mariosep wrote:
This is my proof for God existing.


1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.

4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.

5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

Therefore God Exists.


Wow! Why didn't you say that before! The whole proof makes absolute sense to me. Whereas before I thought it was just a load of unsubstantiated and meaningless ill-defined terms thrown together as if it said something about reality.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
(November 14, 2016 at 9:10 am)Edward John Wrote: I don't know why I am still going with this, I already Won, I proved my arguments that God does exist what I said Is definitely sufficient for any honest person to believe in God, Just that that the ignorant won't admit it.  

God hardened Pharaohs heart, not by being the efficient cause of his hardness of heart, but by permitting it; and by withdrawing grace from him, in punishment of his malice; which alone was the proper cause of his being hardened.

Watch it guys. He's bringing out the big guns with the bold extra large size font and an exasperated tone.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
I define "God" to be the statement "Therefore God Exists", this aforementioned statement as quoted exists. Therefore God exists.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
Edward John Wrote:
Quote:Mariosep wrote:
This is my proof for God existing.

1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

Therefore God Exists.

I find it odd that he even needed more steps that this, since his proof is:

1. Create God.
2. God exists.

Which works just fine.  And it's something that we know happens, because humans have done it millions of times over the course of our existence.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
Broken quotes are also proof of God's existence. Although if I were still a mod I would have fixed that already for you in which case my existence-as-forum-god would have been proved.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
(November 14, 2016 at 9:10 am)Edward John Wrote:


god is Quarterflash?
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
God is whatever gets me laid.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
That's just a typical atheist ignore trick to stay deluded in your passions, self will and along with atheist insult -trick to get Christians of the truth and reason, the fact that atheists try so hard to disapprove God proves that there is a God. And again, I won, there is really no point for me to keep on repeating the arguments for God, over and over again.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
(November 14, 2016 at 9:55 am)Edward John Wrote: That's just a typical atheist ignore trick to stay deluded in your passions, self will and along with atheist insult -trick to get Christians of the truth and reason, the fact that atheists try so hard to disapprove God proves that there is a God. And again, I won there is really no point for me to keep on repeating the arguments for God, over and over again.

It sounds like you're desperate.
How does the fact that people try to disprove the existence of some god prove that said god exists?

Not to mention that no one is trying to disprove the existence of that god...
We're just telling you that you haven't proven that it exists.

But POE away with your big fonts and stuff...
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