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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:33 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 12:28 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (November 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for deporting illegals, I think it just depends. If they are families that have children and have been here for a long time, I'd say let them stay. If it's some dude who just trespassed the border here recently, I'd say take him back. If he really wants to come, there's a legal way of doing it.
But there are legal ways for the family with kids to do it as well. You can't afford to be soft on immigration, you have to clamp down hard on illegals and tell them to do it legally. The system exists for a bloody reason.
I understand... but it's a tough situation when there are children involved.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:34 pm
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No it's not, deport them -and- their anchor babies. Probably ought to make mexico pay for that, while we're at it.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:34 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for deporting illegals, I think it just depends. If they are families that have children and have been here for a long time, I'd say let them stay. If it's some dude who just trespassed the border here recently, I'd say take him back. If he really wants to come, there's a legal way of doing it.
This is another message that the media got wrong..
He is not doing onmass deportations of illegals.
He has been saying that all CRIMINAL Illegals will be rounded up and sent back. Meaning murders and rapists/'the bad hombre's' will be deported. No more 'sanctuary cities.'
Which is an insane idea if you look up what those are. Why flood our prisons with people who are convicted criminals when they do not belong here to begin with?
Trump wants to send all of the trouble makers home. Then he said we will look at who is left. Meaning we have to vet those who are here.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:35 pm
Are you ignoring my questions, Drich?
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:36 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 12:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No it's not, deport them -and- their anchor babies.
And it's not the government shitting on the anchor babies, their very own parents subjected them to this outcome, the parents knew the fucking rules.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:37 pm
We don;t flood our prisons with illegals. We flood our prisons with natives and non-violent offenders. What are you complaining about anyway, the prisons get paid for anyone they file away, citizen or otherwise. Are you against those jobs and all that economic stimulus?
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:38 pm
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(November 14, 2016 at 12:28 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (sarcasm mode off)
I'm pissed enough at Hillary I don't give a rat's ass if Trump puts her in Gitmo or not. And if he does, there otta be big blow up pictures of her goddam fucking e-mail server on all the walls, the floor, and the fucking ceiling. She can wake up and go to sleep every fucking day looking at the fucking thing.
And maybe some pinups of Anthony "wanna touch my fucking' Weiner on her cell walls too. Shudda offed that motherfucker instead of Vince Foster.
And a great case could be made for quite a few other members of the Hillary Gang to do some serious time in some nasty shithole too.
He's not gonna prosecute her. It's only been a few days and he's already changed his tone about that.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:42 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 12:31 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (November 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: In principle, I don't have a problem with a wall if it would deter human trafficking and drug trafficking.
The problem is how expensive it would be and whether or not it would actually be effective. Overall it seems kind of a dumb idea.
Don't forget the ones that cross in desert areas and die of exposure in the attempt.
Goddamn outrage that little detail about unrestricted border crossings is never on TV
Yeah, I live in a little Texas border town right next to Mexico and the desert out here is brutal. Not just the heat and dryness, but the mountain lions and coyotes. I can't imagine how they do it and come out alive. It is very dangerous.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:45 pm
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Sheer force of will, well..that and we're pretty much built to cover hot dry spots between oasis. I guess hope helps too, hope for a better life, even if that hope is as illusory as trumps campaign turned out to be.
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RE: Trump on 60 Minutes
November 14, 2016 at 12:45 pm
(November 14, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (November 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: In principle, I don't have a problem with a wall if it would deter human trafficking and drug trafficking.
The problem is how expensive it would be and whether or not it would actually be effective. Overall it seems kind of a dumb idea.
Here's a good video about it I posted in another thread. Of course, the conservatives here will just dismiss as liberal hogwash, but there's some good food for thought in there, like the fact that only half of undocumented immigrants actually come over that border and they're actually less likely to commit crime than a U.S. citizen.
Oh, and anyone that tells you that a wall will stop drug trafficking knows nothing about drug trafficking.
Thank you for posting, I will take a look. I still think we should enforce the process of coming in here legally from here on out, but at the same time I think it's important that we have some compassion for those already here who have been here for many years, have families and children, and have made a good life here.
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