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Trump won the white working-man vote..
RE: Trump won the white working-man vote..
(November 18, 2016 at 5:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well, I'm sure that a person can feel that way....but casting their vote is what gave him the ability to take his racist ideology to the white house.

Again, just entirely ignoring the fact that many don't interpret his campaign as racist. Again, a false dilemma. Just you saying it's so, don't make it so. Your whole point hinges on it being absolutely concrete that Trump and his campaign and his policies are explicitly racist. I think you're sipping the left wing kool aid if you think that's anywhere near a certainty.
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RE: Trump won the white working-man vote..
(November 19, 2016 at 6:56 am)Napoléon Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 5:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well, I'm sure that a person can feel that way....but casting their vote is what gave him the ability to take his racist ideology to the white house.

Again, just entirely ignoring the fact that many don't interpret his campaign as racist. Again, a false dilemma. Just you saying it's so, don't make it so. Your whole point hinges on it being absolutely concrete that Trump and his campaign and his policies are explicitly racist. I think you're sipping the left wing kool aid if you think that's anywhere near a certainty.

You're wasting your time with these dumb shits, Nap. They're still in shock and denial that Hillary lost and Trump won. They're obsessed with race. Their fall back response to nearly every argument they're losing is the same tired and worn out recycled bull shit, "You're a racist", "He's a racist", "She's a racist", "They're racists", ...and of course, "bigots" and "nazis" are a couple of their favorite canned responses too.

Argument: Hillary and the dems lost one of their most loyal and largest of voting bases, the white blue collar working class. These were areas where the coal mines have been closed and jobs were lost. These were areas where manufacturing was shut down and more jobs were lost. These were voters in areas that hadn't voted for a Republican president in 30 years. These were the same voters who helped elect both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama to two terms as president. These were the same voters that Hillary and the dems took for granted and alienated. Trump went to those voters and told them that he was going to bring their jobs back, that he was going to reopen the mines and bring back manufacturing.

Their Resonse: "They're racists".

If these dumb shits think they can continue playing the race card and alienate their once largest and loyal voting base and win elections, let 'em go for it. They'll give Trump another term as president in 2020.
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(November 18, 2016 at 7:18 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 6:53 pm)operator Wrote: Even though there are an alarmingly large number of muslims who believe that death should be the punishment for apostasy, that gays should be killed, that sharia law should be implemented in the western world, etc. etc. you can't just 'ban' an entire group of people from entering our country. It sounds very simple and effective but it's not.

Also putting a ban on muslims is like a few steps away from having internment camps for all Middle Eastern people.

I don't see the logic behind that last statement of yours.

Unfortunately, racism disguised as criticism of Islam does exist. I do think there's a lot of ignorant people who simply use Islam as an excuse to express hatred for 'foreigners.'

I think hysteria about terrorism can get out of control. What will a ban on Muslims lead to? That's what I fear. With that being said do I think this ban will ever happen? Probably not.
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RE: Trump won the white working-man vote..
(November 19, 2016 at 6:56 am)Napoléon Wrote: Again, just entirely ignoring the fact that many don't interpret his campaign as racist. Again, a false dilemma. Just you saying it's so, don't make it so. Your whole point hinges on it being absolutely concrete that Trump and his campaign and his policies are explicitly racist. I think you're sipping the left wing kool aid if you think that's anywhere near a certainty.

Lol, "Sure, during the campaign he thought white supremacists made such good points over 75 times that he re-posted their material, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was running a racist campaign."

How's that kool-aid taste?
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(November 19, 2016 at 8:25 am)A Theist Wrote:
(November 19, 2016 at 6:56 am)Napoléon Wrote: Again, just entirely ignoring the fact that many don't interpret his campaign as racist. Again, a false dilemma. Just you saying it's so, don't make it so. Your whole point hinges on it being absolutely concrete that Trump and his campaign and his policies are explicitly racist. I think you're sipping the left wing kool aid if you think that's anywhere near a certainty.

You're wasting your time with these dumb shits, Nap. They're still in shock and denial that Hillary lost and Trump won. They're obsessed with race. Their fall back response to nearly every argument they're losing is the same tired and worn out recycled bull shit, "You're a racist", "He's a racist", "She's a racist", "They're racists", ...and of course, "bigots" and "nazis" are a couple of their favorite canned responses too.

Argument: Hillary and the dems lost one of their most loyal and largest of voting bases, the white blue collar working class. These were areas where the coal mines have been closed and jobs were lost. These were areas where manufacturing was shut down and more jobs were lost. These were voters in areas that hadn't voted for a Republican president in 30 years. These were the same voters who helped elect both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama to two terms as president. These were the same voters that Hillary and the dems took for granted and alienated. Trump went to those voters and told them that he was going to bring their jobs back, that he was going to reopen the mines and bring back manufacturing.

Their Resonse: "They're racists".

If these dumb shits think they can continue playing the race card and alienate their once largest and loyal voting base and win elections, let 'em go for it. They'll give Trump another term as president in 2020.

NO Trump DID NOT WIN, learn the difference between law and popular vote. Hillary got the popular vote. There is no mandate here. This was a fumble for dems not a win for asshole bigots. 

HEY FUCKFACE, Your friends at fucks news claim the Hamilton actor was race baiting. BUT the problem with that fuckface, is that LGBT is not a skin color. FUCK YOU.

Let me clue in dumbass, this demagoguery on the part of the right has been going on since Reagan, nice scam they have going. Reagan attached himself to the right and the rich and successfully painted the left as anti private sector, at first it was cold war garbage, but over time they pointed the demagoguery at minorities. 

This is all designed by the right to divide poor and middle class blacks and whites to get fuckfaces like you to ignore that the top does not give one fuck about your ability to pay your bills.

I am 50 years old. I am old enough to see and remember Reagan busting the collective bargaining power of unions. UNIONS, the entities that defended and built the middle class after WW2.

Now watch, this is what is going to happen. There will be a marginal worker pay increase, and Trump like Bush will send everyone a bribe rebate. But the wage increase and the bribe will only give the public a short term sense of security. Long term Trump, "The Democratic People's Republic of ASSHOLE BIGOTS" is simply setting us up for another economic bubble. That is very clear, or should be clear considering he is filling his cabinet with Bush's assholes. Is that what you want? Is that "draining the swamp"? 

Now if you think it is all in their heads, go talk to LGBT, shut your fucking mouth and listen. If you cannot do that, then you are nothing but another sucker Trump has conned.
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(November 19, 2016 at 8:59 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(November 19, 2016 at 6:56 am)Napoléon Wrote: Again, just entirely ignoring the fact that many don't interpret his campaign as racist. Again, a false dilemma. Just you saying it's so, don't make it so. Your whole point hinges on it being absolutely concrete that Trump and his campaign and his policies are explicitly racist. I think you're sipping the left wing kool aid if you think that's anywhere near a certainty.

Lol, "Sure, during the campaign he thought white supremacists made such good points over 75 times that he re-posted their material, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was running a racist campaign."

How's that kool-aid taste?

I know you weren't talking to me, but are you referring to the "alt-right" Twitter accounts that Trump retweeted? It is possible that he just retweeted them without checking the profiles.
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Trump won the white working-man vote..
(November 19, 2016 at 9:04 am)Brian37 Wrote: I am 50 years old.
And you still live with mommy, you don't work, and you are a SJW.
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Kusa that was mean  Sad
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(November 18, 2016 at 10:58 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 18, 2016 at 9:44 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Do you agree with the Nazi worldview?

What do you think? You've read enough of my posts by now to form your own judgement ... one should hope.

Doesn't that make you a bigot, though ?
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(November 19, 2016 at 9:55 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Kusa that was mean  Sad

Being cruel to Brian has been KUSA's favorite pastime here as long as I can remember...
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