So what you think of it?

I'd love an elaboration on your "Damn."

Well quite the scenic route wasn't it. Had some really good instrumental stuff going on, I hear a lot of indie influences, which I like when it's heavy, but not so much when it isn't, so the song goes up and down for me, synth can be too overwhelming in places. There's some guitar stuff around the 3 minute mark I liked in particular, made me think of Mogwai for some reason.

Here's my favorite Mogwai song:

Mine is:

(November 24, 2016 at 7:20 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Well quite the scenic route wasn't it. Had some really good instrumental stuff going on, I hear a lot of indie influences, which I like when it's heavy, but not so much when it isn't, so the song goes up and down for me, synth can be too overwhelming in places. There's some guitar stuff around the 3 minute mark I liked in particular, made me think of Mogwai for some reason.

Sorry if I'm babbling.

(November 24, 2016 at 6:03 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:

(November 24, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, not liking super operatic metal is one example of music I don't like.

Just trying to confirm the sort of thing you meant  

Quote:

Damn.

Quote:Both bands are comprised of incredibly skillful musicians.

The first is emotionally flat and the second is... really something special. That's the difference. In theory anyone can learn to play well on the surface... but feeling is something that can't be learned. Either you feel the music or you don't.

Quite. Also the way in which 'metalness' is determined, more or less.

Yes and Pink Floyd had a baby.

I've always felt exactly the same way! A friend told me about transatlantic a while back because I once liked Dream Theater years ago, and after watching a live set online I thought bleach, nothing but technical wankery, horrible. It has the parts I now hate about DT (apart from LaBrie becoming unlistenable) turned to 11.

(November 24, 2016 at 5:17 pm)Vic Wrote:

(November 24, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Alex K Wrote: I know this is like the highest metal blasphemy there is, but I can't fucken stand Dio, but I love Ozzy Sabbath.

Wha-

I thought we were friends

We have reached an impasse! I can't bring myself to like his singing, Satan rest his soul

(November 25, 2016 at 1:01 am)Alex K Wrote:

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(November 24, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, not liking super operatic metal is one example of music I don't like.

When it comes to music as a whole... it's the difference between contrived music like this:





And sublime music like this:





Both bands are comprised of incredibly skillful musicians.

The first is emotionally flat and the second is... really something special. That's the difference. In theory anyone can learn to play well on the surface... but feeling is something that can't be learned. Either you feel the music or you don't.

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I've always felt exactly the same way! A friend told me about transatlantic a while back because I once liked Dream Theater years ago, and after watching a live set online I thought bleach, nothing but technical wankery, horrible. It has the parts I now hate about DT (apart from LaBrie becoming unlistenable) turned to 11.

This is because you, like myself, recognize what it means to be a true appreciator of the art of sound rather than a mere 'music fan'.

I'll proudly wear the further misapplication of the NTS Fallacy directed against me like a badge too

To those who react to music by shouting over it with how amazingly skilled and complex it all is while I'm trying to hear the actual music with my ears to determine whether it's actually any good my answer is "Well I can't hear it because you're shouting over it but in all likelihood it probably sounds like most of the over-produced shite you listen to."

(November 24, 2016 at 11:36 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:

(November 24, 2016 at 10:27 am)Vic Wrote: this may be a bad moment to say this but I'm terminally allergic to almost any type of core

Don't know what's 'core' about it.

From the Motionless in White Wikipedia article:

Quote:The band is described by AllMusic as a blend of metalcore, gothic metal and industrial metal. They have also been called "horror-metal."

You should check out some of their other songs.