(December 1, 2016 at 5:23 am)Little Rik Wrote: This type of comment come from someone who surely must believe that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.  

You might want to re-read your own comment a few times and see if you can spot the irony.

Quote:Sorry Ton but when any research can not come up with solid evidence then all their researches are like farts.

Oh, of course... because uneducated guesses are so much better.

Quote:Blood beside bringing oxygen to the brain feed the brain as well.

And?

Quote:The brain is like the hard drive of a computer.
It is just a storage of information.
That's all.

No, incorrect. You don't know what you are talking about. I don't accept made up bullshit about 'consciousness' and spirituality and any other garbage that you think you can just throw at the wall. You dismiss the work of researchers because you claim they don't come up with solid evidence, then you expect your made-up horseshit to be accepted even though you have no evidence at all. May I suggest that your next name change read: Bizarro_Rik.

(December 1, 2016 at 9:57 am)Tonus Wrote:

(December 1, 2016 at 5:23 am)Little Rik Wrote: This type of comment come from someone who surely must believe that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.  

You might want to re-read your own comment a few times and see if you can spot the irony.

If you refer to my signature don't forget that I am a master of ironies and parodies.  

Quote:Sorry Ton but when any research can not come up with solid evidence then all their researches are like farts.

Quote:Oh, of course... because uneducated guesses are so much better.

Did you know that over 90% of those who start a business go broke or fail before they succeed?
The same apply to anyone who try to come up with something new.
Good effort Ton but life is tough.
You never thought of that Ton, did you?  

Quote:Blood beside bringing oxygen to the brain feed the brain as well.

Quote:And?

And what?  

Quote:The brain is like the hard drive of a computer.
It is just a storage of information.
That's all.

Quote:No, incorrect.  You don't know what you are talking about.  I don't accept made up bullshit about 'consciousness' and spirituality and any other garbage that you think you can just throw at the wall. You dismiss the work of researchers because you claim they don't come up with solid evidence, then you expect your made-up horseshit to be accepted even though you have no evidence at all.  May I suggest that your next name change read: Bizarro_Rik.

(bold mine)

And you dismiss the fact that physical science can not understand the science behind the physicality.  
Tell me something Ton.
When your toilet fail to flush that nasty thing would you call a plumber or an electrician?

After this tell me who is the bizarre.  

(December 2, 2016 at 6:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you refer to my signature don't forget that I am a master of ironies and parodies.  

Too bad you're also not a satirist.

Quote:Did you know that over 90% of those who start a business go broke or fail before they succeed?
The same apply to anyone who try to come up with something new.

It's a reminder that if we quit, we'll never know anything for sure. In other words, we'd wind up like you.

Quote:And what?  

So you didn't have a point? It's rare to see you admit that.

Quote:And you dismiss the fact that physical science can not understand the science behind the physicality.

Right after I point out that you don't know what you're talking about, you spit out the above nonsense. See what I meant about irony in my previous post?

(December 2, 2016 at 6:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you refer to my signature don't forget that I am a master of ironies and parodies.  

You're a master of bating; and that's about it.

A master baiter indeed.

(December 2, 2016 at 12:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(December 2, 2016 at 6:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you refer to my signature don't forget that I am a master of ironies and parodies.  

You're a master of bating; and that's about it.

Stim.  

I feel so lucky to talk to you the AF guru.  
Please Stim can you help LR to understand why strong atheists such as Howard Storm all of a sudden after an NDE experience became a strong Theist?  
What happen to them?  
Did they went mad and insane?      
Please Stim explain to me what could have happened.  

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(December 2, 2016 at 11:59 am)Tonus Wrote:

(December 2, 2016 at 6:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you refer to my signature don't forget that I am a master of ironies and parodies.  

Too bad you're also not a satirist.

Do you really see a big difference among satires, ironies and parodies?
I don't but if you feel strong about it then I leave the last word to you.  

Quote:Did you know that over 90% of those who start a business go broke or fail before they succeed?
The same apply to anyone who try to come up with something new.

Quote:It's a reminder that if we quit, we'll never know anything for sure.  In other words, we'd wind up like you.

I never said that we should quit Ton.
All I try to point out to you was the fact that you should not be too enthusiastic and passionate about
physical-material achievements.
All these achievement only serve the purpose to keep us afloat in this universal dimension.
The real progress is something else and that is not affected by the negative aspect such as the struggle
in the physical-material dimension.  

Quote:And what?  

Quote:So you didn't have a point?  It's rare to see you admit that.

The point is already there Ton.
If you can not get it too bad.
If on the other hand you expect me to elaborate on the point then you better read some topic and information on how the system works and how the blood feed that part of the body and brain called head.
I got better things to do then explain that to people that think they are very smart.  

Quote:And you dismiss the fact that physical science can not understand the science behind the physicality.

Quote:Right after I point out that you don't know what you're talking about, you spit out the above nonsense. See what I meant about irony in my previous post?

If you only would have answered my question whether you would call a plumber or an electrician when your toilet is stuck then you would have understood that obviously physical science can not understand what is behind the physical-material aspect.
You fail badly son and now you pretend that it is me that talk nonsense.
Double failing Ton.      

(December 4, 2016 at 8:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Do you really see a big difference among satires, ironies and parodies?

I see a big difference among those who are self-aware and those who are not.

Quote:All I try to point out to you was the fact that you should not be too enthusiastic and passionate about physical-material achievements.

It's tough not to be passionate about the only progress that we can actually track.  The improvements that science and technology have made to our lives are so numerous at this point that there aren't enough gigabytes to list them all.  The improvements that your "something else" is responsible for cannot even be quantified by those who believe in it.  You'll forgive me if I save my enthusiasm for the stuff that actually works.  

Quote:If on the other hand you expect me to elaborate on the point then you better read some topic and information on how the system works and how the blood feed that part of the body and brain called head.

I don't need you to explain how the blood brings nutrients to the brain.  I need you to explain how that was in any way relevant to the point you were trying to make.  This is an example of how you drift from one point to another without addressing them, all the while trying to mock the intelligence of the person you're dealing with.  It's funny to watch, in a "look at the drunk guy stumbling onto his face" kind of way, but it doesn't actually provide any useful answers.

Then again, your track record on providing useful answers is so poor that I guess stumbling around like a drunk isn't all that different.

Quote:If you only would have answered my question whether you would call a plumber or an electrician when your toilet is stuck then you would have understood that obviously physical science can not understand what is behind the physical-material aspect.

Neither can any other science, including the ones you make up to try and invent a supernatural reality.  In fact, it would not surprise me if you idiots can't even come up with a working definition of "what is behind the physical-material aspect."  You're all pretty sure it's there, but you can't agree on what it is or how it works or why it's there.  You know why?  Because you don't have a method of testing and verifying your claims.  You will therefore never achieve consensus and never actually do anything useful for the world.  Build something that works with your "karma" and we'll finally take your claims seriously.  Until then, they're garbage.

(December 4, 2016 at 9:52 am)Tonus Wrote:

(December 4, 2016 at 8:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Do you really see a big difference among satires, ironies and parodies?

I see a big difference among those who are self-aware and those who are not.

Quote:All I try to point out to you was the fact that you should not be too enthusiastic and passionate about physical-material achievements.

It's tough not to be passionate about the only progress that we can actually track.  The improvements that science and technology have made to our lives are so numerous at this point that there aren't enough gigabytes to list them all.  The improvements that your "something else" is responsible for cannot even be quantified by those who believe in it.  You'll forgive me if I save my enthusiasm for the stuff that actually works.  

Quote:If on the other hand you expect me to elaborate on the point then you better read some topic and information on how the system works and how the blood feed that part of the body and brain called head.

I don't need you to explain how the blood brings nutrients to the brain.  I need you to explain how that was in any way relevant to the point you were trying to make.  This is an example of how you drift from one point to another without addressing them, all the while trying to mock the intelligence of the person you're dealing with.  It's funny to watch, in a "look at the drunk guy stumbling onto his face" kind of way, but it doesn't actually provide any useful answers.

Then again, your track record on providing useful answers is so poor that I guess stumbling around like a drunk isn't all that different.

Quote:If you only would have answered my question whether you would call a plumber or an electrician when your toilet is stuck then you would have understood that obviously physical science can not understand what is behind the physical-material aspect.

Neither can any other science, including the ones you make up to try and invent a supernatural reality.  In fact, it would not surprise me if you idiots can't even come up with a working definition of "what is behind the physical-material aspect."  You're all pretty sure it's there, but you can't agree on what it is or how it works or why it's there.  You know why?  Because you don't have a method of testing and verifying your claims.  You will therefore never achieve consensus and never actually do anything useful for the world.  Build something that works with your "karma" and we'll finally take your claims seriously.  Until then, they're garbage.

Talking about garbage please let me summarize your garbage.
1) It is naive behind any limit to think that nobody create and run the universe.  
Logic show that behind any creation there is a mind but what's the point in talking about logic with a fool?

2) Logic once again tell us that despite all new discoveries real progress remain an illusion.
As soon as one problem is solved one more problem pop up in a never ending game of fooling the dreamer.
And the dreamer will keep on being fooled until he-she will give up chasing the illusion when he-she will realize that real progress lie elsewhere.
The fool look outside not realizing that the mine of gold is inside and within.

3) Now the last point Ton.
How do we know that God is real and is within?
By realizing that outside we can only find the way to stay afloat and the real progress does not lie there the wise will automatically look elsewhere.
Drugs can give a tremendous good feeling and that feeling is coming from inside which can not be compared to the feeling that may come from outside.
Yoga is free from drugs but in a way it lead to a build up of deep peace of mind which result in bliss.
Both yoga and drug extract that beautiful feeling from within with the difference that yoga is natural while drugs are masturbating body and brain in a destructive way.
Once you understand where that beautiful feeling come from you also realize that God is within but again
that is something that will only manifest once you sort out the idea that nobody run the universal show.  

(December 4, 2016 at 8:50 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(December 2, 2016 at 12:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote: You're a master of bating; and that's about it.

Stim.  

I feel so lucky to talk to you the AF guru.  
Please Stim can you help LR to understand why strong atheists such as Howard Storm all of a sudden after an NDE experience became a strong Theist?  
What happen to them?  
Did they went mad and insane?      
Please Stim explain to me what could have happened.  

Hey Bizarro, guess what? I don't give a shit. I literally have no opinion, no knowledge or no interest in any of this.

Now go away and play in traffic with your blocks, you disingenuous little wankfart.

My theory is that Howard Storm (if any such actually exists) was never a true atheist.[/parody]