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Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
#51
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 5:05 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:
(December 18, 2016 at 5:02 am)Aroura Wrote: Almost every morning since the election I wake up feeling so strange.  Depressed, angry, more depressed, anxious, etc. Yes it's getting a bit better, but coming up on the electoral college vote the stress is starting to make it worse again.  I am having actual nightmares, and even when not election themed, my sleep has been much more disturbed, and my waking hours I feel constantly distracted and tired.  I cry over literally nothing.  In the shower, while playing video games, while driving to the store. My thoughts wander in mid sentence, I keep catching myself just staring off into space. 

My method of coping has been to detach. I don't look at the news websites any more and don't discuss anything remotely like politics with anyone. I try hard to avoid learning the political opinions of co-workers and neighbors because I know if I learn they supported Trump, they will be vermin in my eyes. I don't see Trump supporters as people with different opinions but as enemies of humanity. They are defective units to me, cancer cells. The only way to avoid constant feelings of disgust and anger for me is to just detach from anything political. It might work for you as well.

I think it's crazy how so many left wingers I know have real trouble with diversity yet claim to be the most for diversity.

In a normal working place it's something you have to deal with, people of different cultures and political opinions.

I work with people from every part of the globe of different sexualities and religions and they all talk about hatred of one another but they all have to unite under capitalism to earn money.

I think it's also crazy how a lot of left wingers didn't think like this before they lost with Brexit and Trump.

Like I had a scottish friend who knew my political views, knew I was voting for Brexit and she would just giggle at me and say in her very upper class posh voice how I was silly and so on.
Soon as Brexit is voted for I get a message how she can no longer talk to me as I make her feel sick and she's blocking me on everything.

It reminds me of this......

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Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#52
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
All your concerns and suffering is genuine and valid Aroura and I'm here anytime if you ever need to vent drop me a PM.

And anyone who trys to hurt you when you open up to hurt can fuck off. And any asshole who tries to do such a thing and acts like you are pathetic is the pathetic one. People who need to bring others down to prop themselves up... THEY are the weak ones.

Opening yourself up to being hurt is brave, not weak. You are brave and admirable Aroura and you have my full support and I find your courage commendable. And you don't have to feel brave to be brave either.

And now, some quotes that inspire me:

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P.S. I think you're an awesome person. I'm very glad you are brave enough to open up. It also helps me believe in myself more when I feel like shutting down.
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#53
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RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 5:55 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Like I had a scottish friend who knew my political views, knew I was voting for Brexit and she would just giggle at me and say in her very upper class posh voice how I was silly and so on.
Soon as Brexit is voted for I get a message how she can no longer talk to me as I make her feel sick and she's blocking me on everything.

She was never your friend then.
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#54
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
@ Paulpablo

You say "left wingers" like that's a bad thing Tongue
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#55
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(December 18, 2016 at 5:55 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Like I had a scottish friend who knew my political views, knew I was voting for Brexit and she would just giggle at me and say in her very upper class posh voice how I was silly and so on.
Soon as Brexit is voted for I get a message how she can no longer talk to me as I make her feel sick and she's blocking me on everything.

She was never your friend then.

Well I'm a pretty cynical bastard when it comes to friends.  I think friendships are actually fragile things anyway, I've been through enough.

She was never a close friend but we used to have a friendship of sorts.

I just find this particular behavior odd because we used to talk a lot about politics.  It's not like she suddenly discovered anything new then stopped talking to me.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#56
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(December 18, 2016 at 5:55 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Like I had a scottish friend who knew my political views, knew I was voting for Brexit and she would just giggle at me and say in her very upper class posh voice how I was silly and so on.
Soon as Brexit is voted for I get a message how she can no longer talk to me as I make her feel sick and she's blocking me on everything.

She was never your friend then.

Someone I knew for 7 years had a disagreement with me about politics and ended their friendship with me.

I had a vegan friend who I talked to for 2 or 3 years and one day I told them that my family was vegan but I was the only person in my family who still ate meat. She asked me rhetorically if I cared about my own stomach more than the lives of animals and then she removed me from Facebook and never talked to me again.

People like this are fucking ridiculous.

(December 18, 2016 at 6:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I just find this particular behavior odd because we used to talk a lot about politics.  It's not like she suddenly discovered anything new then stopped talking to me.

Sounds to me like the disagreements bothered her all the time but she suppressed it all and then suddenly ghosted you rather than bothering to tell you how she really felt.
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#57
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 6:02 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: @ Paulpablo

You say "left wingers" like that's a bad thing Tongue

I feel a bit weird saying left wingers because I don't think I'm a right winger.  

I didn't know what left wing or right wing was around 1 year or so ago and because or this forum.

I suppose I don't mean left wingers exactly because I'm left wing on a lot of subjects.  

The general gist of the group I'm talking about is those SJW left types.

(December 18, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(December 18, 2016 at 6:00 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: She was never your friend then.

Someone I knew for 7 years had a disagreement with me about politics and ended their friendship with me.

I had a vegan friend who I talked to for 2 or 3 years and one day I told them that my family was vegan but I was the only person in my family who still ate meat. She asked me rhetorically if I cared about my own stomach more than the lives of animals and then she removed me from Facebook and never talked to me again.

People like this are fucking ridiculous.

(December 18, 2016 at 6:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I just find this particular behavior odd because we used to talk a lot about politics.  It's not like she suddenly discovered anything new then stopped talking to me.

Sounds to me like the disagreements bothered her all the time but she suppressed it all and then suddenly ghosted you rather than bothering to tell you how she really felt.

No I got a whatsapp message saying "You make me feel sick you've ruined the country and put us all into a nation of .............................................. and I'm blocking you on every social media we talk on!"

She definitely told me how she really felt, just not while talking to me for all that time.
It was the first message I read when I woke up and I heard police sirens outside the window, I was thinking shit what did Brexit do, is there a riot.
Turned out the police siren was unrelated and the world was normal outside.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#58
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 5:05 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: The only way to avoid constant feelings of disgust and anger for me is to just detach from anything political. It might work for you as well.

I've never been political for that very reason.

It's also why I'm philosophical.
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#59
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 6:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Well I'm a pretty cynical bastard when it comes to friends.  I think friendships are actually fragile things anyway, I've been through enough.

She was never a close friend but we used to have a friendship of sorts.

I just find this particular behavior odd because we used to talk a lot about politics.  It's not like she suddenly discovered anything new then stopped talking to me.

Fair enough but she is a butthurt crybaby and you're better off not having any contact with somebody like that anyway. I have a friend who is an SNP supporter and we haven't fallen out over it.

If you know anything about me, you'll know that I am very much opposed to the idea of Scottish Independence.
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#60
RE: Are you still grieving? You are not alone.
(December 18, 2016 at 6:08 pm)paulpablo Wrote: No I got a whatsapp message saying "You make me feel sick you've ruined the country and put us all into a nation of .............................................. and I'm blocking you on every social media we talk on!"

She definitely told me how she really felt, just not while talking to me for all that time.
It was the first message I read when I woke up and I heard police sirens outside the window, I was thinking shit what did Brexit do, is there a riot.
Turned out the police siren was unrelated and the world was normal outside.

Yeah I don't understand it when anyone lets politics affect their friendships.

I always separate the person from their opinions.

Intelligent people can have stupid opinions and stupid people can have intelligent opinions.

Also decent people can have disgusting opinions and disgusting people can have decent opinions.
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