(December 17, 2016 at 5:13 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You think only people like the KKK and neo-Nazis can be racist?  That's exactly the kind of thing a racist-in-denial.

Oh, Trump got black and Latino voters?  No one said they can't be stupid, too.

Lol, confusing nationalism for racism.  The two almost always go hand in hand.

No I think some people really don't know the definition of racist:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

What the left did is go around talking about micro aggressions and latent racism. It lost it's power, and now what people think is racist, really isn't racist as it's defined. It comes down to having a victim mentality again. People who tend to blame others for their problems see the faults in others and accuse them of being racist when they are really not racist. 

The black people I know are the ones who have awakened to the plantation mentality they have been on. Always thinking white supremacy is the reason for keeping them down. Instead these people become independent and realize the left never wants them to leave and as soon as they do, they become free. Of course just like you did, the left calls them stupid and ignorant. Face it the left lives in a dependency mindset which if you have ever read the seven habits of highly effective people is the lowest level on the maturity continuum. From there it goes to independence and then interdependence.

Are you two (Auora and Vorlon) arguing lack of democratic voters or lack of democratic votes? All of these numbers appear to be for democratic votes, not how many democrats voted. In the general, you don't have to vote party line. Maybe for the dems and Hillary, that was the real problem.

Plus all of the dumb ass fly over voters that don't know what is good for them. Maybe double down on the ignorant vote next time.

(December 17, 2016 at 5:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Are you two (Auora and Vorlon) arguing lack of democratic voters or lack of democratic votes? All of these numbers appear to be for democratic votes, not how many democrats voted. In the general, you don't have to vote party line. Maybe for the dems and Hillary, that was the real problem.

Plus all of the dumb ass fly over voters that don't know what is good for them. Maybe double down on the ignorant vote next time.

I don't understand the Bernie or bust people. Their choice didn't get the nomination so they didn't vote in the most vital election I've ever seen.

(December 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 17, 2016 at 5:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Are you two (Auora and Vorlon) arguing lack of democratic voters or lack of democratic votes? All of these numbers appear to be for democratic votes, not how many democrats voted. In the general, you don't have to vote party line. Maybe for the dems and Hillary, that was the real problem.

Plus all of the dumb ass fly over voters that don't know what is good for them. Maybe double down on the ignorant vote next time.

I don't understand the Bernie or bust people. Their choice didn't get the nomination so they didn't vote in the most vital election I've ever seen.

I don't know any "Bernie or Bust" people or have not seen any of their voting numbers. Post voting, were any of them polled? Did they not vote? Did they vote but not for Hillary?

Do we have any here that would like to respond?

(December 17, 2016 at 5:26 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: No I think some people really don't know the definition of racist:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/Submit
noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

What the left did is go around talking about micro aggressions and latent racism. It lost it's power, and now what people think is racist, really isn't racist as it's defined. It comes down to having a victim mentality again. People who tend to blame others for their problems see the faults in others and accuse them of being racist when they are really not racist. 

The black people I know are the ones who have awakened to the plantation mentality they have been on. Always thinking white supremacy is the reason for keeping them down. Instead these people become independent and realize the left never wants them to leave and as soon as they do, they become free. Of course just like you did, the left calls them stupid and ignorant. Face it the left lives in a dependency mindset which if you have ever read the seven habits of highly effective people is the lowest level on the maturity continuum. From there it goes to independence and then interdependence.

Yeah, it was all about micro-aggression and latent racism, like when that guy at the Trump rally felt comfortable enough to yell, "Fuck those dirty beaners!" and no one batted an eye. A lot of of you Trump supporters keep complaining that it was unfair to call Trump's campaign racist, but the weird thing is that the openly racist people don't seem to agree with you. Many of them see Trump's election as meaning that they don't have to hide in the shadows anymore.

So keep telling yourself it's just the left-wing being ridiculous. Meanwhile, those of us that live in reality will continue to tell it like it is.

(December 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 17, 2016 at 5:31 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Are you two (Auora and Vorlon) arguing lack of democratic voters or lack of democratic votes? All of these numbers appear to be for democratic votes, not how many democrats voted. In the general, you don't have to vote party line. Maybe for the dems and Hillary, that was the real problem.

Plus all of the dumb ass fly over voters that don't know what is good for them. Maybe double down on the ignorant vote next time.

I don't understand the Bernie or bust people. Their choice didn't get the nomination so they didn't vote in the most vital election I've ever seen.

Kind of the principle of the thing. We're really tired of voting for who we dislike the least. We want to vote for people we actually like, and if the DNC wants to start winning, they need to start listening to the voters.

(December 18, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(December 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't understand the Bernie or bust people. Their choice didn't get the nomination so they didn't vote in the most vital election I've ever seen.

Kind of the principle of the thing. We're really tired of voting for who we dislike the least. We want to vote for people we actually like, and if the DNC wants to start winning, they need to start listening to the voters.

But Trump.......Now was not the time.

(December 19, 2016 at 4:03 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 18, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Kind of the principle of the thing. We're really tired of voting for who we dislike the least. We want to vote for people we actually like, and if the DNC wants to start winning, they need to start listening to the voters.

But Trump.......Now was not the time.

Well maybe the DNC should have realized that sooner. The fact that there was a likable candidate in the running at one point just makes the problem all the more obvious, and ruffles people's feathers all the more. Sure it's akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face, but people are really frustrated with the system. If you can't figure out how to beat someone like Trump in a landslide, you don't really deserve to win anyway.

(December 18, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(December 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't understand the Bernie or bust people. Their choice didn't get the nomination so they didn't vote in the most vital election I've ever seen.

Kind of the principle of the thing. We're really tired of voting for who we dislike the least. We want to vote for people we actually like, and if the DNC wants to start winning, they need to start listening to the voters.

(December 19, 2016 at 4:03 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(December 18, 2016 at 11:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Kind of the principle of the thing. We're really tired of voting for who we dislike the least. We want to vote for people we actually like, and if the DNC wants to start winning, they need to start listening to the voters.

But Trump.......Now was not the time.

Of course it wasn't. Anyone old enough and honest to remember the 2000 POTUS election should've known it. Anyone who listened to Trump speak and who listened to his supporters should've known it. 

Third party voters in POTUS elections are like a pebble in the shoe of the American political system. Most of the time they're a mere annoyance, but on occasion can position themselves in a way that makes the whole thing fall on its face. And that's what happened here. But now all the little pebbles want to disclaim any responsibility because they didn't like Hillary, and/or they didn't like Whatever. Well...

TRUMP.

(December 18, 2016 at 9:43 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Yeah, it was all about micro-aggression and latent racism, like when that guy at the Trump rally felt comfortable enough to yell, "Fuck those dirty beaners!" and no one batted an eye.

There was even one better, chanting JewSA without anyone batting an eye. There have been the endorsments from the KKK and David Duke. They simply felt comfortable with the message Trump conveyed. So to say his campaign wasn't racist is certainly not how the outspoken and unabashed racists understood the message.