Thoughts:

• Morality varies from culture to culture so global policing & standards are difficult.
  
• I have no particular problem with pornography involving consenting adults regardless of whether that is hetero, gay, lesbian, solo, animal or whatever (I like hetero, lesbian and solo women).
  
• As a parent I believe that children must be protected (and not just my own) to whatever is the legal age limit of a country and I don't just mean from paedophiles.
  
• That teenagers are exploring sexual issues is entirely natural, probably is with younger children too.
  
• Religions have no right to claim any moral high ground on account of they behave more like vultures than humanitarians.
  
• Religions should be kept away from controlling any legal mechanisms or government.
  
• Religions should be kept out of issues involving sexuality and personal adult choices.
  
• Religions should be kept away from children.

Kyu

Exactly. I'm at the same point as you.

I think we put undue focus on child pornography, when what we should be doing is introducing measures to ensure no one, regardless of age is taken advantage of. However in matters where both parties are consenting, I do not think there is anything at issue, at least down to a certain age, though I think that age will differ from person to person and parent to parent.

(April 23, 2009 at 6:36 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: - As a parent I believe that children must be protected (and not just my own) to whatever is the legal age limit of a country and I don't just mean from paedophiles.

Interesting you avoid trying to push a universal age for child-adult which I think a lot of people do. I'm with you here though.

(April 23, 2009 at 6:50 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: Interesting you avoid trying to push a universal age for child-adult which I think a lot of people do. I'm with you here though.

Ultimately it's an arbitrary distinction especially when you consider that some children have such a mature mental outlook that they are more adult than the adults (my youngest daughter for instance) and vice versa (some people may be physically adult but psychologically very immature). It's like voting & jurors, at 18 we all get to vote and be jurors, to make decisions that affect other people's lives in the most profound fashion but, as a fictional character of Heinlein's observed, "I have never been able to see how a thirty-year-old moron can vote more wisely than a fifteen-year-old genius"

Kyu

Yeah I know what you mean.

It's a hard area to be specific about, especially with the way you described it. People are unpredictable and they are different, so how can we thrust a certain rule/worldview on an entire group of people? It's unethical, and not conducive to personal growth or the growth of our society.

But then comes the question, if we cannot generalise when it comes to maturity in kids and teenagers, what rules/guidelines should we impose? Or is it a decision to be made by a parent? And if the parents are incapable of making a responsible decision, who will?

Don't like the threads title it should be changed

(April 24, 2009 at 5:00 am)Giff Wrote: Don't like the threads title it should be changed

Eh? A title of "Child Pornography" seems quite relevant to a thread about...what was it again?...oh yes...Child Pornography.

Understand Adrian. But I dont like the sound of it. It's like they're in to it or something.

(April 24, 2009 at 5:06 am)Giff Wrote: Understand Adrian. But I dont like the sound of it. It's like they're in to it or something.

At which point a person can either decide to read the thread and find out that this is a discussion or ignore it. I hardly see why controversial topics should be hidden away; nobody is demanding people read them.