(December 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: The laws are already in place, Obama just hasn't been following them. Trump doesn't even need to create a law, since they already exist.

Yeah, you're an idiot not interested in facts.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-de...d=41715661

Quote:President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

2,5 to 3 millions, by the way, is the same number Trump is running his mouth on.

(December 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: The laws are already in place, Obama just hasn't been following them.

You really need to inform yourself. Obama has deported record numbers of illegal immigrants -- according to this Politifact article, which reports your boy Trump agreeing that Obama has deported millions.

The Trumpsters can't find it within themselves to realize or admit that our current president was one of them, lol.  To busy calling him a socialist, a liberal, a secret muslim, a kenyan...and...ofc, other things™ as well.  

The Deporter in Chief, a lackey of the banks, a friend of the rich mans wallet, and a drone warlord.  Yeah, real fucking bleeding heart we got on our hands.

Quote:White nationalists are ‘prepared to revolt’ if Trump runs from their support

Haha, what horse shit. They aren't going to do anything that they aren't already doing, which is stocking up on canned food and scribbling "DIE N****RS" on a fence now and then. They're political poison. Now that Trump has the White House his only possible reaction to those groups is to tell them to fuck off so he can score some easy political points. The hardcore white supremacist nutters are often the same people who refuse to take part in the political process because *insert government conspiracy here*.

So it's not much of a threat. I mean, they're already revolting.

(December 29, 2016 at 1:10 pm)Tonus Wrote: So it's not much of a threat.  I mean, they're already revolting.

In the Groucho Marx sense of the word, I assume.

(December 29, 2016 at 12:47 pm)abaris Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: The laws are already in place, Obama just hasn't been following them. Trump doesn't even need to create a law, since they already exist.

Yeah, you're an idiot not interested in facts.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-de...d=41715661

Quote:President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

2,5 to 3 millions, by the way, is the same number Trump is running his mouth on.

The right will try the anne coulter defense of saying he didn't deport them he only prevented them from coming in yeah like there is much of a difference typical xenon's waffling at semantics

As for the laws they sucked so like DOMA Obama said fuck that and trumps gonna learn soon enough why

And dose anyone really think if the laws were not there trump wouldn't have made them

Oh and trump does believe in both expanding and creating new anti immigrant laws

(December 29, 2016 at 12:47 pm)abaris Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: The laws are already in place, Obama just hasn't been following them. Trump doesn't even need to create a law, since they already exist.

Yeah, you're an idiot not interested in facts.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-de...d=41715661

Quote:President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

2,5 to 3 millions, by the way, is the same number Trump is running his mouth on.

haha, never said Obama didn't deport anyone, but the laws have been relaxed and a reason Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents union supported Trump over Clinton's plan. There is a lot of good information here:

http://www.fairus.org/

(December 27, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Fireball Wrote: Those guys have all the guns and are salivating at making "America White Again", a nice recipe for disaster or something if they see that "opportunity"  fading away.

They have guns. They don't have "all the guns", nor do they have the armor, the choppers, the fighters, the bombers, and they certainly don't have the infrastructure and training. The Weekend Warriors would make mince meat of them.

(December 29, 2016 at 5:36 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(December 27, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Fireball Wrote: Those guys have all the guns and are salivating at making "America White Again", a nice recipe for disaster or something if they see that "opportunity"  fading away.

They have guns. They don't have "all the guns", nor do they have the armor, the choppers, the fighters, the bombers, and they certainly don't have the infrastructure and training. The Weekend Warriors would make mince meat of them.

Doh! After all, I have some guns, so they can't have them all.

(December 29, 2016 at 11:55 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Coal miners and steel mill workers care about the coal industry.

Coal mining has been a declining industry since the mid 80's. 


It has nothing to do with "Mexicans" or "muslims" or "jews" or international trade deals or anything besides the fact that natural gas, which the US has in abundance (right now) is surpassing coal for a variety of reasons.

http://www.powermag.com/natural-gas-over...ys-report/

Quote:The growth in natural gas–fired generation in the U.S. since 2007 has overwhelmingly displaced coal-fired generation, according to a report from the Breakthrough Institute released Dec. 15.

Sadly what people want is a magical solution so they don't have to change.  There is no such thing as magic but that doesn't stop far too many of them from listening to a charlatan who tells them what they want to hear.  Hillary told coal miners the truth:  bad move.  They don't want truth.  They can't handle the truth.

Yep.  That's just one of the reasons Trump is going to find himself unable to follow through with at least one promise he made on the campaign trail.  He's going to have similar problems with that promise to save American manufacturing jobs.  Unless he's willing to count manufacturing in places like Guam or American Samoa, which are technically American soil without all those pesky labor laws, he's not going to be able to keep manufacturing here without pro-sweatshop labor laws (and let's face it: you can only build so many factories on islands as small as Guam).

In 2020, his opponent, whoever it is, is going to remind the voters that Trump promised to save coal and bring back manufacturing jobs.  

Still, I'm hoping the democrats have their own internal revolution and start standing up for the middle class again.  How about we put back in place some of the banking regulations that prevented economic disasters from the 40's until the 2000's?  How about we give some power to labor unions?  How about we expand public health care to more than just congress, the elderly and vets?  Seriously, as much as the Republicans are completely despicable, I'd love to see the Democrats actually be progressive.