just a bit of advice:

don't try to out weird Charles Manson

Yeah, not so much. Jesus hadn't yet been invented at the time Deuteronomy was written.

Boru

My big question is, if he is suppose to die in prison why did they rush him to the hospital? Seems to undermine the states decree. 

Let's see, you want somebody to die but you use resources to keep him alive. I don't get it.

Warden must be christian.

(January 4, 2017 at 12:33 am)TheRealJoeFish Wrote:

(January 4, 2017 at 12:29 am)paulpablo Wrote: Pretty sure Manson was never classed as a mass murderer.

Meh, the definitions are fuzzy. The way I've heard it, "mass murder" just means someone who murdered more than a few people, as opposed to (or as a broader category encompassing) serial killers, whose murders are spread out over time, and spree killers, who kill a bunch of people in a short time period but go place to place as they do so.

The last FBI definition I saw, c. 1998, was "kills three or more people without a cooling off period between each."* If Charlie didn't kill anyone himself then he's better termed a "conspirator in a murder plot". 


*The "cooling off period" is the difference between a spree murderer and a serial killer.

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(January 4, 2017 at 8:50 am)mh.brewer Wrote: My big question is, if he is suppose to die in prison why did they rush him to the hospital? Seems to undermine the states decree. 

Let's see, you want somebody to die but you use resources to keep him alive. I don't get it.

Warden must be christian.

Simple enough, they're required to provide medical care. The staff don't get to decide when he dies.

(January 4, 2017 at 9:06 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

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(January 4, 2017 at 8:50 am)mh.brewer Wrote: My big question is, if he is suppose to die in prison why did they rush him to the hospital? Seems to undermine the states decree. 

Let's see, you want somebody to die but you use resources to keep him alive. I don't get it.

Warden must be christian.

Simple enough, they're required to provide medical care. The staff don't get to decide when he dies.

One version of insanity I guess. Makes Chuck chuckle.

(January 4, 2017 at 9:14 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(January 4, 2017 at 9:06 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

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Simple enough, they're required to provide medical care. The staff don't get to decide when he dies.

One version of insanity I guess. Makes Chuck chuckle.

A person incarcerated for one year gets the same care as a lifer.

(January 4, 2017 at 12:34 am)paulpablo Wrote:

(January 4, 2017 at 12:33 am)TheRealJoeFish Wrote: Meh, the definitions are fuzzy. The way I've heard it, "mass murder" just means someone who murdered more than a few people, as opposed to (or as a broader category encompassing) serial killers, whose murders are spread out over time, and spree killers, who kill a bunch of people in a short time period but go place to place as they do so.

I actually thought he killed no one and was put in prison with conspiracy to commit murder.

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Just checked google, apparently he killed no one but was convicted of first degree murder on several counts because of the fact he ordered the murders to be carried out.

Ah, I see what you mean.  Right right he was the patriarch but didn't actually do (most of) the stabbin'.

Manson had quite the pack of mush brained followers.

Hard to imagine there are any people out there that desperate for guidance in their lives . . .

From a legal POV, it's better if he expires in a hospital rather than in a prison cell. Much less complicated all around.

(I'm also hoping that this is the pendulum swinging back after losing people we liked last year, and that we can expect more schadenfreude-type casualties in 2017).

. . . that awkward moment when you really don't give a shit what's killing someone, but just kind of hope it does it soon.