I've been having trouble posting replies, I did cut and paste stuff from scientific open letter, maybe the spam filter is blocking it, dunno.

Oh, the site is probably blocking you as spam or something. An admin here can probably help you out with that.

(January 17, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Jesster Wrote: Oh, the site is probably blocking you as spam or something. An admin here can probably help you out with that.

Yeah I think they are working on it, hopefully this one will work; Thank you all for replies, Just a thought about what Science is Really about these days;

Professor of Genetics, Richard Lewontin wrote; “We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant 

promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It

 is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori 

adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, 

that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”  Billions and Billions of Demons, The New York Review, 9 January, 1997, p. 31.

Is this an objective search for truth?

Oookay. Again, what does that have to do with atheism? You're just pulling a scientist's quote about one of his scientific views. This isn't a science site, although some of the scientists here can have that conversation with you if you want. Is that what you wanted instead of an atheist conversation?

(January 17, 2017 at 8:24 pm)Jesster Wrote: Oookay. Again, what does that have to do with atheism? You're just pulling a scientist's quote about one of his scientific views. This isn't a science site, although some of the scientists here can have that conversation with you if you want. Is that what you wanted instead of an atheist conversation?

How else can we continue to discuss atheism if we leave science out of it? Atheists constantly say there's no evidence for God, isn't that a scientific statement?

Don't care what some scientist says. If his ideas are valid that's all that matters. If he can substantiate his ideas then cool. If not, then what he says is bunk, no matter what his name is.

If you can present positive evidence of your god, I am willing to listen.

(January 17, 2017 at 8:20 pm)Pulse Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 8:15 pm)Jesster Wrote: Oh, the site is probably blocking you as spam or something. An admin here can probably help you out with that.

Yeah I think they are working on it, hopefully this one will work; Thank you all for replies, Just a thought about what Science is Really about these days;

Professor of Genetics, Richard Lewontin wrote; “We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant 

promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It

 is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori 

adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, 

that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”  Billions and Billions of Demons, The New York Review, 9 January, 1997, p. 31.

Is this an objective search for truth?

So, mister Richard Lewontin, feel free to propose an alternative to using the materials available to us.

(January 17, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Pulse Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 8:24 pm)Jesster Wrote: Oookay. Again, what does that have to do with atheism? You're just pulling a scientist's quote about one of his scientific views. This isn't a science site, although some of the scientists here can have that conversation with you if you want. Is that what you wanted instead of an atheist conversation?

How else can we continue to discuss atheism if we leave science out of it? Atheists constantly say there's no evidence for God, isn't that a scientific statement?

I said this in the beginning. Atheism is simply the disbelief in gods. There can be many many many reasons why someone could be an atheist. Coming at us with something a single scientist said that you disliked is not likely going to represent our reasons for atheism.

Have you tried asking any of us why we are atheists instead of setting up a straw man?

You ask many questions for a single thread. It might work better if you pick one at a time and devote a separate thread to each.

Speaking of meaning, does your God assign your meaning to your life? How does that work in Christianity? How does there being a God make your life meaningful?

Welcome aboard.  If these are atheism's serious problems, it doesn't seem like there -is- a problem.