Well he did say quantum didn't he. Just about proves it.

(the Orch-Or model of Penrose and Hameroff has been falsified. Perhaps we can use this article as proof of life after death, at least whenever Deepak Chopra is involved.)

Reimers et al. Weak, strong, and coherent regimes of Fro¨ hlich condensation and their applications to terahertz medicine and quantum consciousness. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Online, Feb. 2009.
Georgiev, Danko (2006). Falsifications of Hameroff-Penrose Orch OR Model of Consciousness and Novel Avenues for Development of Quantum Mind Theory. PhilSci Archive

I've temporarily had use of many atoms I don't have at the moment.
Over my life I've consumed tons of food and then released most of it.
None of the atoms that were once me have bothered to let me know what they're doing now.
If any of you are using any of them can you tell them to give me a call on the sub etha.

(July 14, 2011 at 2:55 am)xonage Wrote: I have gone back and forth with what I believe about this. Although there is no evidence to believe we have a life after death, there is also no evidence to the contrary that I have encountered. It seems if we are part energy, and energy can never cease to exist, then part of us must be eternal. Anyone with some concrete evidence that we are completely finished at the time of death, please speak up.

Oh dear. Another 'Since there is no evidence against Y, Y must be true.' argument. It doesn't fucking work!

There is no evidence to suggest life after death. That's it. Case closed.

Okay look.

i will give you an interesting made-up example.

There is no evidence that a flying purple hippopotamus with polka dots doesn't exist.

That's the logic you're using.

Whereas I use the logic.

"There is no evidence that a flying purple hippotamus with poka dots DOES exist."

See the difference?

There is life after death, just not in the way you think. Our bodies decompose and become food for worms, which then live until they are eaten by, say, a bird which goes on to live until it dies, at which point it may become food for some other animal or else worms again. Or, if we're buried and put into the ground, we may become food for plants which grow in the dirt above us. I think it would be neat to be buried after I die under a mighty oak or some other tree that my body may live on in another way.

But that's not what you had in mind, is it?

I assume you are referring to some sort of conscious afterlife, of which there is absolutely no proof exists. But I think we need to apply Occam's Razor here. Which is more plausible, that when our brain dies it becomes the end of our consciousness and therefore no life after death, or some part of our body which has never been seen or discovered before somehow survives physical death and goes on to live for eternity retaining our consciousness and all our memories and yet even without a nervous system is somehow able to experience pain as well as all our emotions which up until death were just chemical processes in our brains?

(July 14, 2011 at 8:51 am)The Magic Pudding Wrote: I've temporarily had use of many atoms I don't have at the moment.
Over my life I've consumed tons of food and then released most of it.
None of the atoms that were once me have bothered to let me know what they're doing now.
If any of you are using any of them can you tell them to give me a call on the sub etha.

When i read this a very small area on my little finger started to itch, I think it was trying to get in touch.

Laws of thermodynamics, says this douchebag, and I still think you're a christeater in "disguise." Burden of proof's on you, and your threads read like GC's playbook.

(July 14, 2011 at 2:13 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Laws of thermodynamics, says this douchebag, and I still think you're a christeater in "disguise." Burden of proof's on you, and your threads read like GC's playbook.

My suspicion of his beliefs has been steadily growing. He seems more like a theist than an atheist. Didn't think I'd say anything, but the more I read his posts...the more theistic in nature they appear.


Creationist in disguise anyone?

Quote:It seems if we are part energy, and energy can never cease to exist, then part of us must be eternal

Let me ask you a question. If the batteries in your camera die ( give up all their "energy" ) do you change them or do you stand there with a dead camera waiting for something magical to happen?

(July 14, 2011 at 2:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Let me ask you a question. If the batteries in your camera die ( give up all their "energy" ) do you change them or do you stand there with a dead camera waiting for something magical to happen?

No silly, you use one of these: