This angry desert god is a a miserable prick.  Doubtless modeled after the men who created him.

(April 25, 2017 at 11:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:


This angry desert god is a a miserable prick.  Doubtless modeled after the men who created him.

The good thing for humanity, is such a monster is not real, the bad thing for humanity is that most have yet to realize it.

I think really the only pragmatic thing we can do is keep religion on a secular leash by agreeing to protect it, but without allowing any religion or any sect a monopoly of power.

Brian37, your overdramatizing a bit the danger of religion. Wars in the name of the profit, addictions are much bigger monsters than stories about brutal justice of God.

(April 25, 2017 at 11:41 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Brian37, your overdramatizing a bit the danger of religion. Wars in the name of the profit, addictions are much bigger monsters than stories about brutal justice of God.

No I am not. We have plenty of examples in human history where religion has become abusive. 

Not even the history of Asia/Japan is violence free. 

It isn't any call to end religion of any label, but no sorry, religions are made up of humans and humans seek social order and form governments, and as long as humans seek power, any religion is a volcano, some are simply more active and some are dormant relatively speaking in relationship to geography and period of time in human history.

If you refuse to accept that you set yourself up for future disasters. Don't make assumptions that our species will always do the right thing, even if most humans intend on doing the right thing.

I said in a prior post and stand behind saying that most humans are good. But bad claims can and do make otherwise decent humans get to the point of doing horrible things in groups.

Brian37 is right. This kind of mentality is dangerous, the one like Little Rik said: "Now you show once again your naivety and gullibility by pretending that a father is wrong when punishing his children when they do something wrong."

What it means is that when you believe in, so called, perfect being means that humans are always guilty. No matter how stupid it looks in some countries that thinking prevailed and drowned human freedom. Like in Aceh in Indonesia where now you have religious police where they patrol streets and punish people for wearing western cloths, playing domino, having gay relationships, men talking to women... all because of 2004 tsunami. And since bad things will always happen punishing people will be more and more severe while any kind of rational thinking will be toned down.

Now could that happen in, for instance US? Closest thing to it was 9/11, but it was mostly avoided. Now was it that people were more educated or are more multicultural or it was because it was religious driven incident so it also worked against religion - who knows? In any case there were religious people that wanted to take advantage blamed people for all sorts of nonsense and indeed create that kind of state. Like that cunt Jerry Falwell who did just that by saying:
"I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way — all of them who have tried to secularize America — I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'"
Unfortunately many people already believe him. He does have his own university after all where people are fed this garbage. So if let's say US get hit by a giant meteor or it gets hit by devastating earthquake these kind of cunts will try to take advantage of it, but let just hope people will have their senses.

The tired parent punishing kids nonsense again

I don't put my nephew in a corner to punish him I put him in the corner to correct an anti social behavior. I don't punish him because of some petty notion that my authority has been defied I correct his behavior out of a desire to help him be socially conscience . But I'm not always right and if I'm in the wrong my nephew has every right to disobey me . The idea we should teach children to be obedient is bullshit. We should teach children that authority is to be questioned on content .

The idea that hell or gods wraith is justice is bull in reality it's just sadism

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But of course in the religious mentality good and obedience to authority are the same thing

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(April 25, 2017 at 11:14 am)Minimalist Wrote:


This angry desert god is a a miserable prick.  Doubtless modeled after the men who created him.

indeed a god is a farther who is 90% of the time absent and the rest only shows up to murder people for questioning him. And defining that questioning  or acting in a way he personally doesn't like and calling it "Evil"

And another thing about the mentality that "God is giving us messages" in everything doesn't necessarily need to be bad, but it always does. For instance when ever there is a large problem, like let's say AIDS is today, why don't priests ever say "Aha! That is God telling us to invest more in medicine and find a cure for AIDS." - but if you have any experience with religious mentality you know this sounds ridiculous. No religious person would ever respond like this, except maybe Cornel West. Even your most benign religious people like those old grandmothers that pray in church will not think like this.
For all of them it's just an opportunity for bloodshed and torture. To kill gays, forbid gay marriage, tell people that contraception causes AIDS and so on.
This is not just the case with AIDS if you look at history for almost every big epidemic there was blood to shed, which was usually Jewish blood and guts.

Or if earthquake happens you won't hear from religious authority "Let's invest more in science of detecting earthquakes". Oh no! It's the western clothing, the gays, the Jews, the sex... it's because people aren't being punished enough.
Now why would that be if God of the Bible or Koran is really peaceful underneath all those "misunderstood" violent passages? Because it's not. "God" is indeed well understood and violent way religious people act when problem happens proves it. Proves the ancient barbaric morality of people that wrote it to legitimize crimes they were then committing.