(May 15, 2017 at 3:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(May 15, 2017 at 1:57 am)InteresedUser Wrote: [edit]
The 10 commandments seem like good morals to me. How come not you? These morals never change. You've made the point while one day in your atheism pedophilia is evil the next day you believe it is good. This is why all Atheists are pedophiles.

Your position is evil.

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Exactly how do the first 4 have any moral value?

Might want to clear up whether we're talking about the ten commandments in Exodus 20, Exodus 34, or Deuteronomy 5.

I don't think morality requires a basis. I think moral success requires a basis.

(May 15, 2017 at 4:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(May 15, 2017 at 3:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Exactly how do the first 4 have any moral value?

Might want to clear up whether we're talking about the ten commandments in Exodus 20, Exodus 34, or Deuteronomy 5.  

Yeah, not going to take time looking that up. Are they essentially different?

(May 15, 2017 at 6:04 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(May 15, 2017 at 4:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Might want to clear up whether we're talking about the ten commandments in Exodus 20, Exodus 34, or Deuteronomy 5.  

Yeah, not going to take time looking that up. Are they essentially different?

That depends entirely on what you mean by essential, of course. Having three versions which are not the same kinda opens things up for interpretation. You'd think with billions of souls at stake, YHWH and Moses would take care to cross every i and dot every t, yes?

Come to think of it, Moses is widely credited to have written both Exodus and Deuteronomy - and as the story goes, he had the stone tablets they were inscribed on. If that were the case, how's it that it didn't get recorded accurately?

(May 15, 2017 at 6:24 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(May 15, 2017 at 6:04 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yeah, not going to take time looking that up. Are they essentially different?

That depends entirely on what you mean by essential, of course.  Having three versions which are not the same kinda opens things up for interpretation.  You'd think with billions of souls at stake, YHWH and Moses would take care to cross every i and dot every t, yes?

Come to think of it, Moses is widely credited to have written both Exodus and Deuteronomy - and as the story goes, he had the stone tablets they were inscribed on.  If that were the case,  how's it that it didn't get recorded accurately?

Does "i" equal jesus?   hehehehe

I see what you did there.

(May 15, 2017 at 1:26 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Interesting that you should pick on paedophila, as that is one thing that the bible does not seem to be specifically against and indeed actively promotes it in several passages, Mohammed of islam seems fond of the young ones as well.

Yes, Muhammad was a pedophile and so are atheists. Atheists are pedophiles because we observe in nature societies that practice this and criminals against society do it. They think they are right. There is only the natural explanation in atheistic naturalism. But who is to say it is bad since it is simply part of nature. Whereas in Christianity it is bad each and every time under any circumstances. Objective truth supersedes your changing feelings why this week you think pedophilia is good or bad.

"Despise not one of these little ones" (Matt. 18.10).

"Without natural affection" (Rom. 1.31).

"Lovers of their own selves, covetous" (2 Tim. 3.2).

"Lusts of the flesh" (Gal. 5.16).

"Fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness" (Gal. 5.19).

(May 15, 2017 at 6:55 pm)InteresedUser Wrote:

(May 15, 2017 at 1:26 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Interesting that you should pick on paedophila, as that is one thing that the bible does not seem to be specifically against and indeed actively promotes it in several passages, Mohammed of islam seems fond of the young ones as well.

Yes, Muhammad was a pedophile and so are atheists. Atheists are pedophiles because we observe in nature societies that practice this and criminals against society do it. They think they are right. There is only the natural explanation in atheistic naturalism. But who is to say it is bad since it is simply part of nature. Whereas in Christianity it is bad each and every time under any circumstances. Objective truth supersedes your changing feelings why this week you think pedophilia is good or bad.

"Despise not one of these little ones" (Matt. 18.10).

"Without natural affection" (Rom. 1.31).

"Lovers of their own selves, covetous" (2 Tim. 3.2).

"Lusts of the flesh" (Gal. 5.16).

"Fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness" (Gal. 5.19).

Uh...


Mary was 14, possibly younger, when she gave birth to Jesus, according to the myth.

According to ancient Jewish custom and practice, Mary could have been betrothed at about 12.

(May 15, 2017 at 7:36 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Uh...


Mary was 14, possibly younger, when she gave birth to Jesus, according to the myth.

According to ancient Jewish custom and practice, Mary could have been betrothed at about 12.

God is a child molester?

Troll.