Donald Trump opposes LGBT rights, so it only makes sense that they'd deny their application to have a float in the pride parade. I doubt a Jewish parade would want a Nazi float, even if it was done by a Jewish person.

(June 9, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(June 9, 2017 at 5:30 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's funny how people only use that logic to defend their own side. The exact argument used by the Boy Scouts to exclude gays. How many just said " oh well, it's their organization " I think gays being exclusive rather than inclusive is the height of irony.

The Boy Scouts is an organization. A parade is a celebration. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Lol. it's an organization that puts together the parade. Who do you think rejected their application? Is it the parade that makes the difference to you? I'm unclear how it applies in one case but not the other.

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(June 9, 2017 at 5:41 pm)Divinity Wrote: Donald Trump opposes LGBT rights, so it only makes sense that they'd deny their application to have a float in the pride parade. I doubt a Jewish parade would want a Nazi float, even if it was done by a Jewish person.

The same organization that puts on that parade partnered with the Catholic Church last summer to the article. Makes that claim harder to believe. Plus could we do without the nazi comparisons. Trump isn't sending gays to the camps.

(June 9, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(June 9, 2017 at 5:30 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's funny how people only use that logic to defend their own side. The exact argument used by the Boy Scouts to exclude gays. How many just said " oh well, it's their organization " I think gays being exclusive rather than inclusive is the height of irony.

The Boy Scouts is an organization.  A parade is a celebration.  The two are not mutually exclusive.

This isn't the way I'd take it. From what I know of the Boy Scouts, they are granted government funding for some of their larger events. They are also allowed to recruit on public school grounds. This is the distinction I would make between these things. Parades like this are not tied up in the government in any way.

(June 9, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Jesster Wrote:

(June 9, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: The Boy Scouts is an organization.  A parade is a celebration.  The two are not mutually exclusive.

This isn't the way I'd take it. From what I know of the Boy Scouts, they are granted government funding for some of their larger events. They are also allowed to recruit on public school grounds. This is the distinction I would make between these things. Parades like this are not tied up in the government in any way.

Of course they are. They happen in public streets, they get public permits. I'm not going to split hairs about the difference though. It's obvious that you guys are only making this argument because they are excluding a Trump supporting gay group. I don't know why you can't just say that. Yes, they have the right to discriminate, but that's not what I'm arguing anyway.

I'm simply pointing out the irony of the long fight of gays to be included in society, only to discriminate against other gays for their political beliefs. Especially if they are okay with the Catholic Church of all people.

(June 9, 2017 at 6:08 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I'm simply pointing out the irony of the long fight of gays to be included in society, only to discriminate against other gays for their political beliefs. Especially if they are okay with the Catholic Church of all people.

It has nothing to do with the fact that they are gay, but the fact that they support Trump.

(June 9, 2017 at 6:12 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(June 9, 2017 at 6:08 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I'm simply pointing out the irony of the long fight of gays to be included in society, only to discriminate against other gays for their political beliefs. Especially if they are okay with the Catholic Church of all people.

It has nothing to do with the fact that they are gay, but the fact that they support Trump.

No shit. Might be why I wrote " for their political beliefs "

(June 9, 2017 at 6:15 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: No shit.

No qualm.

(June 9, 2017 at 6:08 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(June 9, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Jesster Wrote: This isn't the way I'd take it. From what I know of the Boy Scouts, they are granted government funding for some of their larger events. They are also allowed to recruit on public school grounds. This is the distinction I would make between these things. Parades like this are not tied up in the government in any way.

Of course they are. They happen in public streets, they get public permits. I'm not going to split hairs about the difference though. It's obvious that you guys are only making this argument because they are excluding a Trump supporting gay group. I don't know why you can't just say that. Yes,  they have the right to discriminate, but that's not what I'm arguing anyway.

I'm simply pointing out the irony of the long fight of gays to be included in society, only to discriminate against other gays for their political beliefs. Especially if they are okay with the Catholic Church of all people.

Of course they get to use public areas for parades. There's a difference between public use of space and government benefits. Anyone has the right to set up a parade like this so long as they fund it themselves.

Honestly, if the US government stopped giving the Boy Scouts so many special handouts that other private organizations didn't get, I wouldn't care what their policies were with LGBT or atheists. They could exclude anyone they wanted then.

(June 9, 2017 at 6:25 am)alpha male Wrote: http://www.fox5ny.com/news/259656209-story

" A group says ‘Charlotte Pride’ is pushing them out of the Gay Pride Parade because they support President Trump.

"I’m very proud of my country, proud of my president, and was once proud of my community," said Brian Talbert, who said he’s proud to be gay and proud to be a Trump supporter."

Hey bro liberalism is dead.

Quote:Silver lining - the banned guys are less likely to get hepatitis A.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/healthtr...spartanntp

Actually a lack of the vaccine is the actual culprit .


As for them being kicked out it has nothing to do with them being gay . It's the fact they have sided with the party of homophobes. And they have sided with a church that still considers them an abomination. It's no different then telling the west bro Baptist church they can't attend. As long as the catholic church retains it views on gays why should they be allowed to march?. It's a celebration and they can invite anyone they like. Beta and Ahole of course don't really care about this it's just a lame attempt to scream and rant.

Furthermore the boy scouts is not the same as pride parade. And the comparison is just absurd. An accurate example would be a church rally that excludes gays. That however would be perfectly within there rights .

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Lastly if they want a march so bad they can form there own. No ones stopping them.