(June 16, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: - USA first...

I'm going to say he's going, not so much USA first, as USA only.
You've seen those pics/memes with the title "This is what Americans think the globe looks like", and then it has a pic where the USA is outlined with the word "USA" in it, then the rest of the globe says something like "Other stuff" or "Nothing"? He's giving reason for that stereotype to be true.

America first is one of the derpist policies ever devised . You would never hear a 21st century  Canada Prime Minister utter such an antiquated and isolationist line . Hell even Steven Harper probably they single most conservative PM we have had in 60 years thinks this is absurd . I don't think I'll ever get totally get Americans

(June 17, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: America first is one of the derpist policies ever devised . You never hear a 21st century  Canada Prime Minister utter such an antiquated and isolationist line . Hell even Steven Harper probably they single most conservative PM we have had in 60 years thinks this absurd . I don't think I'll ever get totally get Americans

(emphasis is mine)

It's simple, really.

For generations we've had it poured in our ears that we're the best and the brightest. No one can do anything as good or as fast. Even as our public schools started to slip from the top, to the middle to the bottom in relation to other first world countries, still the drum beat on, the mantra was repeated. Our parents repeated the lie and most of us believed it. When the Soviets trounced us in Olympic game after Olympic game it was because they use steroids, not because we couldn't beat them. When we lost the Vietnam War, we didn't lose a war, we pulled out of a police action. Any time America failed, it was the fault of someone else.

We still have a huge percentage of people who think this way and act on it. I've been guilty of it, though it shames me to admit it.

Related to the point...
Do I still prefer America. Yes, for a variety of reasons far to numerable to count. But, I also accept that we are not the best at everything, just because, and I see the value and values that other nations bring.

Make America great again Mr. President? I say it has been great all along. Return to the way of thinking noted above (after all, that's really what you mean)? I say fuck you, sideways, with a cactus.

Well this got vicious pretty fast.

I don't see how I have time to answer every comment but I'll do one a day or so.

Please do not think that Trump was my first pick for president.

Please do not think that I am happy with the tweets, and all the other nonsense.

For me and many others Trump was the lessor of two evils. ( and not less by much)

I read the entire op and I still don't know what conservative atheism is

(June 17, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: America first is one of the derpist policies ever devised . You would  never hear a 21st century  Canada Prime Minister utter such an antiquated and isolationist line . Hell even Steven Harper probably they single most conservative PM we have had in 60 years thinks this is absurd . I don't think I'll ever get totally get Americans

And even if one was an unapologetic jingoist, unless one was also dimwitted, America going it alone in the face of well deserved ill will is not the way.

(June 17, 2017 at 10:01 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: Well this got vicious pretty fast.

I don't see how I have time to answer every comment but I'll do one a day or so.

Please do not think that Trump was my first pick for president.  

Please do not think that I am happy with the tweets, and all the other nonsense.

For me and many others Trump was the lessor of two evils. ( and not less by much)

No one made you pull the lever.  You reckon Hillary would have screwed the pooch this bad, or worse?  The tweets are atrocious, but not even close to the most onerous thing in the trumpian cloud at present.  "All the other nonsense" must cover a hell of alot of sin, eh?

(June 17, 2017 at 10:01 pm)Hammok Man Wrote: Well this got vicious pretty fast.

I don't see how I have time to answer every comment but I'll do one a day or so.

Please do not think that Trump was my first pick for president.  

Please do not think that I am happy with the tweets, and all the other nonsense.

For me and many others Trump was the lessor of two evils. ( and not less by much)

Trump is destroying the world standing of the US. As a member of the world, (brit here) the US is now a joke. The daily refrain is "what has that arsehole done now" and Trump rarely disappoints.
Hilary while not being the perfect human, was in a league so far above Trump in every facet of her being that I cant see why anyone would not pick her over the imbecile you are lumbered with. I do remember something vague about e-mails. But who needs to hack e-mails when your president just gives the info away directly to unfriendly countries.

(June 16, 2017 at 6:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(June 16, 2017 at 5:56 pm)Alex K Wrote: USA! USA!

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!


Why are we cheering for 1980's olympic hockey?

Because that's the last time the US beat Canada?  

btw you guys know I'm in Korea right?  If anyone comes for the Olympics give me a shout.

(June 18, 2017 at 6:54 am)bennyboy Wrote:

(June 16, 2017 at 6:09 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!


Why are we cheering for 1980's olympic hockey?

Because that's the last time the US beat Canada?  

btw you guys know I'm in Korea right?  If anyone comes for the Olympics give me a shout.

Nice

Maple leaf forever mothertruckers