(June 27, 2017 at 2:21 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: After watching the video, clearly one of the turbofans had an imbalanced fan. I wonder why an engine shutdown would not alleviate the severe vibrations? Can they not lock the fan in one position?

Apparently only jesus is a certified aircraft mechanic!

Probably why angels don't have IFEs.

(June 27, 2017 at 2:06 pm)Mermaid Wrote: If the pilot of a plane asked me to pray, I'd wet my pants.

Actually the news was saying most airline training protocol tells pilots not to say anything to panic the passengers. And again, even with the design flaw of that blade, the industry standard is for the plane to still fly with a broken engine when the other engines work. Redundancy in design and training got them back safely, not praying.

In a 'severe' case of the engine disintegrating internally and 'locking up' the pins connecting the engine to the mount(s) the pins are designed to shatter and release the engine 'harmlessly'.

The crash of flight 191 in Chicago was somewhat different, the pin didn't let go, the mount did, and when the engine separated from the wing it damaged enough hydraulics the plane was no longer flyable.

IIRC, in Europe a crash occurred when the pin(s) failed on a good engine. That 747 hit an apartment building.

I'd pray to the pilot to get his fucking head in the game and focus on the task at hand.

(June 27, 2017 at 10:50 pm)Kosh Wrote: I'd pray to the pilot to get his fucking head in the game and focus on the task at hand.

What would Jesus do ?

Flaps to 30 degrees or 45 ?????????????????????????????????

(June 27, 2017 at 4:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: In a 'severe' case of the engine disintegrating internally and 'locking up' the pins connecting the engine to the mount(s) the pins are designed to shatter and release the engine 'harmlessly'.

The crash of flight 191 in Chicago was somewhat different, the pin didn't let go, the mount did, and when the engine separated from the wing it damaged enough hydraulics the plane was no longer flyable.

IIRC, in Europe a crash occurred when the pin(s) failed on a good engine.  That 747 hit an apartment building.

This also demonstrates the absurdity of prayer. 

Even in the case of this horrible outcome that did not end well where unfortunately people died, you have a natural explanation to design flaw and or lack of inspection upkeep to replace worn out parts.

In the case of the Australian flight making it back, credit should be given, outside the blade failure, to the redundancy design in the rest of the plane. The factory engineers deserve credit. The blade designers and company who makes them, they need to be held to account. But the factories who make the rest of the parts that compensated for that flaw, they deserve credit.