(June 27, 2017 at 11:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(June 27, 2017 at 7:15 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Using diminutives is a southern habit and I find it quite rude. Calling customers, patients, etc "Honey Baby" or "Sweetie Pie' is insulting. These are terms reserved for very small children. Just because I bought a hamburger off of you does not make me your child. Southern respect , my ass!

 We wouldn't expect an yankee to understand since they suck on rudeness from birth.

LOL, so...in every southern "sir" or "ma'am" there's a teensy tiny "fuck you".  We're a rebellious lot, remember?  

Sweetie, sugar, hon - these are terms of endearment.  We actually don't reserve them for small children - but we do use them to express the same sort of goodwill we have towards those small children.  

Sir is what we call our asshole boss, and our asshole employees...and our asshole customers.  Let me paint a word picture, lol:

"Come again, sir?  I;m not sure you understand, sir, this is Billy Bobs Cornpone shack - everything has corn in it.  I can't remake your order without corn, sir"
-frustrated drive through yankee leaves
"Oh hey sweetie...what can I get you?"
-"Two slices of cornbread, sugar, thanks, good lord that guy was an asshole."
"I know right, bless his heart."

(June 27, 2017 at 7:15 pm)chimp3 Wrote:

(June 27, 2017 at 7:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Well..... sometimes.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pair...rs-n726421

Using diminutives is a southern habit and I find it quite rude. Calling customers, patients, etc "Honey Baby" or "Sweetie Pie' is insulting. These are terms reserved for very small children. Just because I bought a hamburger off of you does not make me your child. Southern respect , my ass!

You and I would clash very badly in person. I call everyone darlin, sweetie, and say 'oh honey' when someone does summin silly.

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(June 28, 2017 at 1:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(June 27, 2017 at 11:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  We wouldn't expect an yankee to understand since they suck on rudeness from birth.

LOL, so...in every southern "sir" or "ma'am" there's a teensy tiny "fuck you".  

Nope, I honestly mean every sir or ma'am I have ever said. If I don't say sir/ma'am to you in person THEN you know I'm being bitchy and don't like you. *whisper* (But no matter if I like you or not I will say Ms/Mr with your last name)

Heheh.  I use ma'am alot too...but the way I use it would probably be insulting to the yankee ear.  It has three syllables and drips with innuendo.  

(June 28, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Heheh.  I use ma'am alot too...but the way I use it would probably be insulting to the yankee ear.  It has three syllables and drips with innuendo.  

Lol yeah that's why it's so hard for deep southerners to talk to Yankees. Each think the other is being rude.

(June 27, 2017 at 11:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(June 27, 2017 at 7:15 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Using diminutives is a southern habit and I find it quite rude. Calling customers, patients, etc "Honey Baby" or "Sweetie Pie' is insulting. These are terms reserved for very small children. Just because I bought a hamburger off of you does not make me your child. Southern respect , my ass!

 We wouldn't expect an yankee to understand since they suck on rudeness from birth.

Oh come off it. We just don't put on an act. I know what it means when a lady says, "Oh bless your heart!"

(June 28, 2017 at 1:32 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(June 27, 2017 at 6:13 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Politeness is not a societal rule it's just good ol' manners to treat people with respect and others need to learn that we in the south are raised to respect others. I always hold the door open for ladies even when they say that I shouldn't treat them that way, yeah I've had that said to me, some perceived societal rules just suck.

GC

I have run into two different mindsets on the holding door action.  Obviously, women are quite capable of opening doors by themselves.  Holding a door open for anyone with arms full, or hanging on to young ones, is simple kindness on the part of anyone of any gender.  Some guys just hold doors open, you can tell they've just been trained to do so, I always thank them.  Then there are the OTHER guys.  The ones who see a pretty woman approaching from yards away, and he chooses the door that HE decides she will enter.  I was with a friend only a week or so ago, there were (6?) possible doors.  He grabs one, stares at her as she walks for (over a minute) to get to his location.  He makes a mock bow with a cheesy smirk as she enters.  She did NOT thank him.  He followed her into the store, and snarled "You're WELCOME, BITCH!"  Kathleen is a formidable Irish female.  She turned around and said, very quietly, "I did not ask you to hold that door.  I did not need for you to hold that door.  In retrospect, I clearly should have chosen another door. You did that for your own personal gratification, so there is no need for me to thank you."  He wasn't doing it out of kindness or consideration, it was an cry for attention and an attempt to control.  We need to take this holding doors and chairs and all of that nonsense out of expected MALE behaviors and just make helping everyone the norm.

 If there is a family following me into a building or even another male I will hold the door open for them, i was taught to be helpful and kind from childhood and 99% of the time I receive a thank you. When someone does the same for me they always receive a thank you, thanking people for their honest efforts of help is another polite thing I was taught and I've found it quite nice to give and receive. 

Yeah there are all kinds even in the south but, things here have gotten worse since the jobs crashed in the north and people from the north started retiring here. I've lived here all my life and have seen the change and I and many southerners do not care for the way things have become but they are what they are and I live with them and do the best to be the southern boy I was raised to be. I really do not care if people thinks what I do is quaint, cheesy, attention grabbing or whatever I do it because I enjoy helping others. You see we were taught that not only were things like opening doors for others was polite but it was also enjoyable, we were taught if you don't have a little time for others what kind of life do you think you will have. It's part of living as a southerner. 

GC

(June 28, 2017 at 11:42 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(June 28, 2017 at 1:32 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I have run into two different mindsets on the holding door action.  Obviously, women are quite capable of opening doors by themselves.  Holding a door open for anyone with arms full, or hanging on to young ones, is simple kindness on the part of anyone of any gender.  Some guys just hold doors open, you can tell they've just been trained to do so, I always thank them.  Then there are the OTHER guys.  The ones who see a pretty woman approaching from yards away, and he chooses the door that HE decides she will enter.  I was with a friend only a week or so ago, there were (6?) possible doors.  He grabs one, stares at her as she walks for (over a minute) to get to his location.  He makes a mock bow with a cheesy smirk as she enters.  She did NOT thank him.  He followed her into the store, and snarled "You're WELCOME, BITCH!"  Kathleen is a formidable Irish female.  She turned around and said, very quietly, "I did not ask you to hold that door.  I did not need for you to hold that door.  In retrospect, I clearly should have chosen another door. You did that for your own personal gratification, so there is no need for me to thank you."  He wasn't doing it out of kindness or consideration, it was an cry for attention and an attempt to control.  We need to take this holding doors and chairs and all of that nonsense out of expected MALE behaviors and just make helping everyone the norm.

 If there is a family following me into a building or even another male I will hold the door open for them, i was taught to be helpful and kind from childhood and 99% of the time I receive a thank you. When someone does the same for me they always receive a thank you, thanking people for their honest efforts of help is another polite thing I was taught and I've found it quite nice to give and receive. 

Yeah there are all kinds even in the south but, things here have gotten worse since the jobs crashed in the north and people from the north started retiring here. I've lived here all my life and have seen the change and I and many southerners do not care for the way things have become but they are what they are and I live with them and do the best to be the southern boy I was raised to be. I really do not care if people thinks what I do is quaint, cheesy, attention grabbing or whatever I do it because I enjoy helping others. You see we were taught that not only were things like opening doors for others was polite but it was also enjoyable, we were taught if you don't have a little time for others what kind of life do you think you will have. It's part of living as a southerner. 

GC

I don't often agree with you, but the big thing I hated about living as a Texan in SoCal was how those SoBs never spared the time for simple courtesy. If life is so fast you need to be rude, perhaps you should slow down a little, Jack.

(June 28, 2017 at 2:17 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(June 27, 2017 at 11:51 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  We wouldn't expect an yankee to understand since they suck on rudeness from birth.

Oh come off it. We just don't put on an act. I know what it means when a lady says, "Oh bless your heart!"

A couple of years ago I went with a friend to pick up a trailer west of Syracuse, NY.  I can't remember the small town we were in but, I can say that the people there were as nice as anywhere I've ever been. I mentioned the reputation people from New York have in the south and the guy who had the trailer and all his employees said that we were seeing the real New York. They said that the people of New York city gave all New Yorkers a bad rep., they told us they hated to go to the city because people there were so rude. So yeah, there are good people everywhere, especially in small towns.

GC

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(June 29, 2017 at 12:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(June 28, 2017 at 11:42 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

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If there is a family following me into a building or even another male I will hold the door open for them, i was taught to be helpful and kind from childhood and 99% of the time I receive a thank you. When someone does the same for me they always receive a thank you, thanking people for their honest efforts of help is another polite thing I was taught and I've found it quite nice to give and receive. 

Yeah there are all kinds even in the south but, things here have gotten worse since the jobs crashed in the north and people from the north started retiring here. I've lived here all my life and have seen the change and I and many southerners do not care for the way things have become but they are what they are and I live with them and do the best to be the southern boy I was raised to be. I really do not care if people thinks what I do is quaint, cheesy, attention grabbing or whatever I do it because I enjoy helping others. You see we were taught that not only were things like opening doors for others was polite but it was also enjoyable, we were taught if you don't have a little time for others what kind of life do you think you will have. It's part of living as a southerner.

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GC

I don't often agree with you, but the big thing I hated about living as a Texan in SoCal was how those SoBs never spared the time for simple courtesy. If life is so fast you need to be rude, perhaps you should slow down a little, Jack.

 Hopefully someday people will see that we quaint southerners have something going and they will jump on board. When I'm in need I know there are those I can count on because they have counted on me and things go much smother in life when people treat each other with value.

GC

(June 29, 2017 at 10:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(June 28, 2017 at 2:17 pm)Aegon Wrote: Oh come off it. We just don't put on an act. I know what it means when a lady says, "Oh bless your heart!"

A couple of years ago I went with a friend to pick up a trailer west of Syracuse, NY.  I can't remember the small town we were in but, I can say that the people there were as nice as anywhere I've ever been. I mentioned the reputation people from New York have in the south and the guy who had the trailer and all his employees said that we were seeing the real New York. They said that the people of New York city gave all New Yorkers a bad rep., they told us they hated to go to the city because people there were so rude. So yeah, there are good people everywhere, especially in small towns.

GC

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(June 29, 2017 at 12:25 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I don't often agree with you, but the big thing I hated about living as a Texan in SoCal was how those SoBs never spared the time for simple courtesy. If life is so fast you need to be rude, perhaps you should slow down a little, Jack.

 Hopefully someday people will see that we quaint southerners have something going and they will jump on board. When I'm in need I know there are those I can count on because they have counted on me and things go much smother in life when people treat each other with value.

GC

You can depend on people to smother you?

Hell, I can get in on smothering people!

Well, to me it's a sign of respect. I often use it. Like when I need to get by someone at the store and someone is in my way i'll say "Excuse me ma'am/sir''