(July 4, 2017 at 4:31 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 4, 2017 at 4:31 pm)Jesster Wrote: Why?

Look in your glasses.

GC

I don't wear glasses. Would you mind speaking clearly instead of in vague riddle language? I'm honestly happier without religion now and I'm wondering why you'd rather have me back in there again. Are you just going to throw hell threats at me?

(July 4, 2017 at 4:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 4, 2017 at 9:40 am)Jehanne Wrote: I was raised in Protestant evangelical Christianity.  I love the quote by Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, "A single friar who goes counter to all Christianity for a thousand years must be wrong. I have decided to mobilize everything against Luther: my kingdoms and dominions, my friends, my body, my blood, and my soul."

Protestant Christianity is a joke.  John Calvin taught that God had predestined some (the Elect) to everlasting bliss while he had predestined others (the Reprobate) to everlasting torments, infants included.  The Roman Church taught that infants who died without Baptism were forever consigned to Limbo, the uppermost level of Hell, while others said that infants are covered by The Atonement, and those who die are in Paradise.

Christianity is a man-made religion where no one can agree on anything.  I used to have arguments, while in college, if there was going to be 1,000 years of peace ("the Millennium") after the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.  We used to argue if The Rapture would happen at the beginning of The 7-year Tribulation, or during the middle or at the end.

So, sorry!  I SHOULD have been studying during this period of my life, preparing for graduate school; instead, I blew my studies on religious nonsense, and I will go to my grave regretting how much time I wasted in non-productive bullshit.

 One thing you can't prove protestant Christianity is a joke, it's helped millions through life's crisis. Calvin taught something the Bible doesn't teach and it is unfortunate. When God told us Christ died for the world we need to pay attention. I thought you were Catholic.

GC

I am an ex-Catholic.  How do you know that Calvin was wrong?  Maybe he was right?  Whose to say??

Saying that religion is useful is completely different than saying that religion is true.  Islam has helped millions through life's crises, also; does that make Islam true?

Fuck Calvin.

(July 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I am an ex-Catholic.  How do you know that Calvin was wrong?  Maybe he was right?  Whose to say??

Saying that religion is useful is completely different than saying that religion is true.  Islam has helped millions through life's crises, also; does that make Islam true?

Amazing!  You and I have something in common as I was a catholic most of my life.  I love debating calvinists and dispensationalists and so on, but I'm more concerned with following Jesus.  Christians, like everyone else on the earth, will disagree until the end of time.  No sense getting hung up on it. I might stop pursuing a graduate degree if I had very important work to do for God, but I wouldn't let it go to sit around and debate this kind of stuff.

(July 4, 2017 at 4:25 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(July 4, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  Sorry you feel that way.

GC

Just curious, which "Protestant" version of Christianity do you have in mind?

Good question.
The galvanised Methodists? The copper bottomed baptists (sp)? The non alloyed Anglicans? The planished Presbyterian’s? The counter bored Catholics? The spot welded Assemblies of God? The ground and polished Pentecostals? The reamed reformists?

Err, I think that's enough daft cunts for now.

(July 4, 2017 at 4:51 pm)Lek Wrote:

(July 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I am an ex-Catholic.  How do you know that Calvin was wrong?  Maybe he was right?  Whose to say??

Saying that religion is useful is completely different than saying that religion is true.  Islam has helped millions through life's crises, also; does that make Islam true?

Amazing!  You and I have something in common as I was a catholic most of my life.  I love debating calvinists and dispensationalists and so on, but I'm more concerned with following Jesus.  Christians, like everyone else on the earth, will disagree until the end of time.  No sense getting hung up on it. I might stop pursuing a graduate degree if I had very important work to do for God, but I wouldn't let it go to sit around and debate this kind of stuff.

Jesus is dead; you are not even following an "idea", because no one truly knows what Jesus said, let alone taught.

God is dead.  From the available evidence, jesus never was.

The biblical God was simply the series of men who ruled the dominant empire in the Levant area in ancient times. He died when the Babylonian Empire bit the dust and he's not ever coming back. There is no celestial God of any kind in this solar system.

"Jesus" never was because the character's name is an alias that was created by con men. The character got that name after 1632. Anyone who worships "Jesus" is worshiping an imaginary person. It's the ultimate joke.

Have any of the christian fans of the king James bible ever bother to read the "author's" other works?
His demonologie was quite illuminating.

(July 4, 2017 at 10:45 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Have any of the christian fans of the king James bible ever bother to read the "author's" other works?
His demonologie was quite illuminating.

The 1611 KJV follows the original 692 Bible.