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10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 3:03 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(July 14, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Salvation being equal or not is a meaningless point when you still haven't proven that god even communicates with us.
What science demand is adequate evidence not absolute proof. To have absolute proof lies beyond human reach since it demands complete knowledge of anything in the universe which is impossible because humans are within and part of the universe. So what it comes down is practical proof. For instance gravity, we accept the truth of gravity based on sufficient testing and observation. The Biblical God invites a testing that's based on logic and testable facts which will result in a Biblical faith, based on objective evidence.
Also, according to the book of Romans, God holds every human being accountable to discern fact from fantasy, truth from tall tales.

You are correct that I used the wrong word. Sorry about that, I will amend my statement.
Salvation being equal or not is a meaningless point when you still haven't provided adequate evidence that god even communicates with us. That didn't really change my point, but whatever.
Do you have this sufficient evidence that god exists?
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
Quote:Also, according to the book of Romans, God holds every human being accountable to discern fact from fantasy, truth from tall tales.

Yet the Book of Romans is the same kind of absurd bible horseshit as the rest of it.  Until you can prove that your basic assumption is true - that there is a god - what you have is human-invented crap.

Face reality, boy.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 11:38 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Also, according to the book of Romans, God holds every human being accountable to discern fact from fantasy, truth from tall tales.

Yet the Book of Romans is the same kind of absurd bible horseshit as the rest of it.  Until you can prove that your basic assumption is true - that there is a god - what you have is human-invented crap.

Face reality, boy.
Not trying to prove God or change your mind; God is self-evident. Now, go into the corner and repeat 100 times or until you understand. Mathematics is where there is 'proofs'.
Atheist Credo: An universe by chance which also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 2:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(July 15, 2017 at 11:38 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yet the Book of Romans is the same kind of absurd bible horseshit as the rest of it.  Until you can prove that your basic assumption is true - that there is a god - what you have is human-invented crap.

Face reality, boy.
Not trying to prove God or change your mind; God is self-evident. Now, go into the corner and repeat 100 times or until you understand. Mathematics is where there is 'proofs'.

Self-evident means that something doesn't need to be demonstrated. But it still can be demonstrated. In order for god to be self-evident he still needs evidence of his existence. Since there is no evidence of his existence, god is not self-evident.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
If God were self-evident, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 6:00 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote:
(July 15, 2017 at 2:39 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Not trying to prove God or change your mind; God is self-evident. Now, go into the corner and repeat 100 times or until you understand. Mathematics is where there is 'proofs'.

Self-evident means that something doesn't need to be demonstrated. But it still can be demonstrated. In order for god to be self-evident he still needs evidence of his existence. Since there is no evidence of his existence, god is not self-evident.
Well, may someday this situation or something similar will happen that would demonstrate via the physical senses, then your ilk will believe. 

If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the White House lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden? As the Secret Service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand onto the entity’s shoulder which the agent did, thus making the entity to disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘Yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it became, much like orange blossoms’.

Atheist Credo: An universe by chance which also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 12:19 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:
(July 15, 2017 at 12:16 am)Godscreated Wrote: I do not have to prove it to you, it is part of my relationship with God. God has asked me through the scriptures to witness and then He will do the rest. The plan of salvation is not mine, it solely belongs to God and He will treat it as He knows best. I couldn't save you if my life depended on it, however your life does depend on salvation.

GC

If you can't prove it you can't say it's true, nor get upset when others don't believe you. If you can't prove it, why are you even here? Everything you have said is meaningless without proof.

 You say God doesn't exist yet you give no proof and you have none either. The proof I have is between God and myself. Anyone can have this proof if the accept Christ as their savior and start living in a real relationship with Him. It's not for me to give you or anyone else proof of God, as I said the scriptures tell me to give and account of what I believe and then the rest is for the triune God to do.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 7:34 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  You say God doesn't exist yet you give no proof and you have none either.

The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim. There is currently zero evidence of god's existence; therefore, to state that god does not exist is merely a reflection of the facts we currently possess. The extraordinary claim, that god does exist, is the burden of the believer to prove as factual.

(July 15, 2017 at 7:34 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The proof I have is between God and myself.

You are confusing proof with faith.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 7:36 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:
(July 15, 2017 at 7:34 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  You say God doesn't exist yet you give no proof and you have none either.

The burden of proof is on the person making the extraordinary claim.  There is currently zero evidence of god's existence; therefore, to state that god does not exist is merely a reflection of the facts we currently possess.  The extraordinary claim, that god does exist, is the burden of the believer to prove as factual.

He made the claim that there was no God in another thread and it was convenient to bring it up here, also. The burden of a positive claim is of non-existence belongs to Him. I've said many times over the years I've been on this site that I can not prove God's existence to an atheist's  satisfaction. So just stop your little atheist quibbles and except you have the same responsibility you demand of Christians .

(July 15, 2017 at 7:34 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The proof I have is between God and myself.

You are confusing proof with faith.[/quote]

You have no idea what I know nor can you prove different, I refer to the above answer.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 15, 2017 at 7:45 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You have no idea what I know nor can you prove different, I refer to the above answer.

GC

Psychology actually can, and it is no different than others who believe in that which they can offer no proof for something's existence.
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