Trying to prove a naked assertion with more naked assertions does not work. The owners of this website would make a mint if they charged you for every naked assertion you made.

I could give a shit less what you claim your God did, I am not treating you any differently than if you were claiming Allah or Buddha. That was then, this is now. It was understandable back then that people bought and sold all sorts of religions and deities back then. But humanity has progressed far beyond the ignorance of antiquity.

There is no divine world or magic invisible super hero pulling our strings.

(July 27, 2017 at 9:13 am)Drich Wrote: Are you in a position to tell me what terms I can and can not use? what are you a Fascist? Tolerance for everyone, unless they disagree in any way shape for form. then it 'STUFF'

Tolerance?  You don't seem to be very tolerant of nonbelievers.

Drich, let me spell this out for you and explain why your approach is counterproductive to your cause:  If you aren't a medical professional in a subspecialty qualified to assess mental capacity, then all you're doing is co-opting medical terminology to sling insults at people because they do not agree with your worldview.

In that context, you are an excellent reason to not become a Christian.  I don't see a gentle spirit or life in abundance in you -- just yet another self-righteous ninny who thinks he has an inviolable right to act like a preachy and presumptuous turd because he's "saved" and thereby above mortal reproach.

(July 27, 2017 at 11:00 am)Astreja Wrote:

(July 27, 2017 at 9:13 am)Drich Wrote: Are you in a position to tell me what terms I can and can not use? what are you a Fascist? Tolerance for everyone, unless they disagree in any way shape for form. then it 'STUFF'

Tolerance?  You don't seem to be very tolerant of nonbelievers.

Drich, let me spell this out for you and explain why your approach is counterproductive to your cause:  If you aren't a medical professional in a subspecialty qualified to assess mental capacity, then all you're doing is co-opting medical terminology to sling insults at people because they do not agree with your worldview.

In that context, you are an excellent reason to not become a Christian.  I don't see a gentle spirit or life in abundance in you -- just yet another self-righteous ninny who thinks he has an inviolable right to act like a preachy and presumptuous turd because he's "saved" and thereby above mortal reproach.

He also probably stupidly thinks because of my blasphemy of his book and the characters in it that if given the chance I would barbecue his kittens. No, I simply think he is full of shit.

I do know humans worldwide are all capable of compassion and non violence, I simply do not see that ability as coming from mythology, superstition or invisible beings.

His God does not explain my condition anymore than any other. Only my genes, life experiences, neurology and brain chemistry explain it. 

It simply frustrates him that he cant shoehorn his invisible friend into this topic. But nobody is singling him out. My attitude would be the same if you offered me any other religion as an explanation to my condition.

(July 26, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 7:54 am)Whateverist Wrote: So is "being a xtian" just an act?

 Why would you ask me such a question? If this person is a Christian he is being deceitful in his attempt to convenience atheists to consider Christianity. Being deceitful goes against what the scriptures teach us about how to witness. If this person believes he is right in what he says he isn't a Christian, you'll have to decide what he is. For me either way he is a hoax.

GC

Yes, you're right; he was a hoax.  It was shown that this particular poster is a fraud who merely copied an online apologist stratagem either with the hope of fooling the godless or else on a lark.  So your disdain for him has been shown to be warranted.

I was reacting to the idea of there being a particular way a Christian -as such- must conduct themselves.  I would hope that xtians, like everyone else, are able to go through stages where they might act in ways they later regret.  Sometimes we must go through phases in order to check off some roads as "not for me".  Perhaps I read the part where you said "no way to act" as focused too exclusively on conduct over being?:

Quote:Actually if he were to be a Christian I just might get a bit upset with him for such a poor expression of what the Bible says. That is definitely no way for a Christian to act.

Naturally you're free to do as you like but I think sometimes you guys hold yourselves to too high a standard.  Conducting oneself in prescribed ways in order to attain a reward in another place and time just seems so dehumanizing to me.  It makes me sad to think of you doing as you think god has told you in order to curry His favor.  Surely there are better ways to be Christians?

I didn't read all 106 replies, but I just want to say to Gone Guy that if you are so concerned about committing the unforgivable sin, then you didn't commit it.  Someone who had wouldn't be at all concerned because he or she would have no belief to be concerned about.  If you care then God is still alive in you.  So if you are truly concerned about committing the unforgivable sin, go back to Jesus who is waiting to take you back.

(July 27, 2017 at 12:58 am)Godscreated Wrote: Dead wrong. My explanation stands.

On crutches.

Quote: I have no idea what you are referring to, come back when you can make some good sense.

GC

I am referring to, the output of a random bullshit generator is indistinguishable from your missives.

(July 27, 2017 at 2:02 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(July 27, 2017 at 12:58 am)Godscreated Wrote: Dead wrong. My explanation stands.

On crutches.

To be fair, all religions worldwide stand on crutches. They are all merely artificial constructs humans buy and sell to set up social order and to explain why good and bad happen. 

Unfortunately humans will call you a bigot when all you are saying is "That was then, this is now". Nobody worldwide in antiquity had benefit of the knowledge we do now, so they made answers up. Most humans even today, just like back then, buy into the religions their parents sell them. Religion is not universal in the context one size fits all nor is it a good way of conducting political diplomacy, either nationally or globally when you consider all the competing religions and even competing sub sects of those respective umbrella labels. 

Humans evolved to be social, but outside astronauts the vast majority of humans do not understand, say like Sagan did, that we are all the same, and we all have the same ultimate roots and that this is the only home we have, and that we are not as different as we paint ourselves to be as a species.