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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 5:14 am
(August 15, 2017 at 3:06 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 3:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: So, in addition to being a Nazi sympathizing shitlord, it looks like the murdering driver has a history of violence and schizophrenia.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...ields.html
I wonder what his defense will be. Temporary insanity? Debbil made him do it?
Maybe he would pioneer the loser defense.
Ah sure, he was so sick of all the winning he was doing.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 7:44 am
(August 16, 2017 at 2:00 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Wrong. The constitution never intended for the Southern States to secede. That's why it was a treasonous at. And this was a constitution written by southern slave holders for southern slave holders. The fact of the matter is that by 1850 the leaders of the dixiecrats knew the writing was on the wall for slavery. Southern populations were stagnating, the territories were being populated by nortern abolitionists and Europeans thus potentially swinging the senate and electoral college against them. They were preparing for civil war from that moment on, and they declared it almost from the moment President Lincoln was elected by the will of the people. Once southern slaveholders didn't control tge Presidency they declared war on their country.
The Civil War was the Souths doing. Nobody elses.
Incorrect. The Constitution never made clear whether a state could leave the Union or not. That's why New England almost seceded over the war of 1812.
http://radioboston.legacy.wbur.org/2012/...succession
Lincoln had an option. Let the South go or start a war to prevent them from doing so. It was his decision that there would be war.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 8:25 am
(August 16, 2017 at 7:44 am)Rahul Wrote: Incorrect. The Constitution never made clear whether a state could leave the Union or not. That's why New England almost seceded over the war of 1812.
http://radioboston.legacy.wbur.org/2012/...succession
Lincoln had an option. Let the South go or start a war to prevent them from doing so. It was his decision that there would be war.
And that's why we don't have a state called New England. (snork)
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 8:35 am
(August 12, 2017 at 11:56 am)c172 Wrote: White nationalists are clashing with police and counter-protesters at a demonstration protesting the city's decision to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from a public park. A "Unite the Right" rally is also scheduled for noon.
https://twitter.com/i/moments/896392466429087744
State of Emergency for the City of Charlottesville.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fig...f6018bfcca
But that's the thing.. it wasn't just white nationalists there were other groups as well some like the radical left went there to cause nothing but trouble and other went to protest the erasure of a monument to Lee.
I think the president right condemned the trouble makers on both sides not just the racists, but the left who brought shields and clubs in numbers to attack the radical right.
If it were up to me I'd let both alt right and left thunder dome it till only one was left, then aware that person the winner.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 10:48 am
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Good thing it's not up to you, this place would be a shithole. So, how many cars did violent leftists plow through crowds, as a rough estimate? How many firearms, in your estimation, were the leftist militiamen packing? How many neo-nazi rallies, on american streets, in 2017...would you feel are appropriate? Are there too few, or not enough?
Bonus round, how many nazis were punched? Happy Dick Spencer Day. -Yahtzee!
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 11:02 am
(August 16, 2017 at 8:35 am)Drich Wrote: (August 12, 2017 at 11:56 am)c172 Wrote: White nationalists are clashing with police and counter-protesters at a demonstration protesting the city's decision to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from a public park. A "Unite the Right" rally is also scheduled for noon.
https://twitter.com/i/moments/896392466429087744
State of Emergency for the City of Charlottesville.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fig...f6018bfcca
But that's the thing.. it wasn't just white nationalists there were other groups as well some like the radical left went there to cause nothing but trouble and other went to protest the erasure of a monument to Lee.
I think the president right condemned the trouble makers on both sides not just the racists, but the left who brought shields and clubs in numbers to attack the radical right.
If it were up to me I'd let both alt right and left thunder dome it till only one was left, then aware that person the winner.
FUCK YOU.......
This is just pure ignorant nonsense. Do you think if there were still statues of Goebbles and Rommel and Hitler in today's Germany Jews would go, "Oh well, leave the statues up because it is part of German history". No? That is how blacks feel about statues of men who wanted to keep slavery.
No sorry if you know and accept slavery as being wrong, you do not get to equate those fighting bigotry as being the same as bigots.
The counter protesters were not bringing firearms to the rally, the Nazi supporters and KKK MEMBERS DID!
Your vile ignorance would be the same as saying, "Don't invade France because the Nazis have a story to tell too."
You are either on the right side of history or you are not. Pull you fucking head out of your ass.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 11:17 am
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(August 16, 2017 at 11:02 am)Brian37 Wrote: No sorry if you know and accept slavery as being wrong, you do not get to equate those fighting bigotry as being the same as bigots. -and there's your trouble, Brian. Wasted words. Drich is a slavery apologist. He's sure it's okay if it's done right, in accordance with his gods will. Gott, is mit him.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 11:28 am
(August 16, 2017 at 11:17 am)Khemikal Wrote: (August 16, 2017 at 11:02 am)Brian37 Wrote: No sorry if you know and accept slavery as being wrong, you do not get to equate those fighting bigotry as being the same as bigots. -and there's your trouble, Brian. Wasted words. Drich is a slavery apologist. He's sure it's okay if it's done right, in accordance with his gods will. Gott, is mit him.
The worst fucking part of his nonsense is he acts like my cussing him out is actually say the same as a black person being lynched, or murdered for running away from their owner.
Drich doesn't understand, the Ann Frank Museum is appropriate in teaching history. The black history Museum in DC is also appropriate in teaching history. Leaving monuments up misses the context of the mindset of the people who put them up at the time when they were put up. They were put up to say that those men were heros, they were not put up as history lessons.
Slavery is an unfortunate part of our history, but it is nothing to be glorified.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 11:54 am
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(August 16, 2017 at 11:02 am)Brian37 Wrote: (August 16, 2017 at 8:35 am)Drich Wrote: But that's the thing.. it wasn't just white nationalists there were other groups as well some like the radical left went there to cause nothing but trouble and other went to protest the erasure of a monument to Lee.
I think the president right condemned the trouble makers on both sides not just the racists, but the left who brought shields and clubs in numbers to attack the radical right.
If it were up to me I'd let both alt right and left thunder dome it till only one was left, then aware that person the winner.
FUCK YOU.......
This is just pure ignorant nonsense. Do you think if there were still statues of Goebbles and Rommel and Hitler in today's Germany Jews would go, "Oh well, leave the statues up because it is part of German history". No? That is how blacks feel about statues of men who wanted to keep slavery.
No sorry if you know and accept slavery as being wrong, you do not get to equate those fighting bigotry as being the same as bigots.
The counter protesters were not bringing firearms to the rally, the Nazi supporters and KKK MEMBERS DID!
Your vile ignorance would be the same as saying, "Don't invade France because the Nazis have a story to tell too."
You are either on the right side of history or you are not. Pull you fucking head out of your ass. As soon as you bring a weapon to a rally your intentions are clear that all you want is war. If you don't have the courage to fight without one, your just as bad a Trump supporter. If you are to stupid to fight a social issue without a firearm, you need to stay home and let the adults in the room handle it. Armed conflict has always been last resort option, now if they do want to repair themselves and their group reputations(if your able to find any silver lining in supporting a racist movement) It would start with a public apologizes and some lines about condemning the actions that some of your groups undertook upon others who opposed them.
It's called history for a reason, that it stays in the past and we learn from the mistakes that were committed. It should not be celebrated out of pride, it should be be removed from the public eye, and kept in the history books and museums. These symbols were not meant to be on display in front of government buildings.
Let's put an end this fucking circus already and go back to hating each other for the right reasons. There is no need to kill each other for over issues that is pointless to carry on about. Wake the fuck up and stop feeding the media frenzy, if you are a person who believes what the neo-nazis or the KKK is offering, I don't feel sorry for you. I do have one thing to say, keep it to yourself and stop bothering others with it. You don't see rational minded people knocking on your door to bother you with pointless nonsense.
If you think I'm attacking freedom of speech you would be wrong, I support freedom of speech without censorship to fullest extent. We can all coexist without the need for violence. All their doing is pushing a armed culture proxy war. If your that dedicated to a cause, invite the opposing side to a empty place and kill each other there. Bring all the trucks,cars and weapons you like, Please leave the people who have no involvement out of it.
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RE: White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville
August 16, 2017 at 12:06 pm
Americans live in a bubble. They think they're the greatest country in the world but everybody knows all the fat bastards were ever good for were for their money. Even black Americans think they're hood because they were born in a poor neighborhood and knows how to throw gang signs, bitch please, get back to me when you have to take a shit in the fucking streets, doesn't get any more hood than that. There are people around the world that would kill to be able to live in your PRISONS.
My favorite is "If you can make it in NYC you can make it anywhere". I mean, what retard said that? Sitting in a air conditioned room while having to press a whole 50 times on the keyboard *gasp*. Must be so hard.
The entitled Americanism is coming to an end. Turns out capitalists don't give two flying fucks about patriotism aaaand *gasp* turns out Americans aren't so great after all, most of the entitled, spoilt, cry babies will be replaced by foreigners who are faster, better and smarter in making money because at the end of the day a capitalist country is only loyal to money. The whole pushback is happening precisely because of that and corporate lords are having none of it.
To live in a capitalist state you have to prove your worth by showing how much money you can bring in and now white Americans are crying mommy because it's no longer possible to just inherit millions from their rich white dad and skate through life. No, now they have to compete with a whole diverse group on equal footing and the shit heads are being exposed for the good for nothings they are(and they hate it!! Lmao). The pathetic, entitled, lazy, neck beards are now crying to daddy state to keep on pampering them no matter how useless they are because..."this is America", "buh buh buh muh patriotism" or smthg. No matter how good you are with something know that there will always be a 12 year old non white kid that'll be better and do it for 10x times less money. Loving the whole shit show. Get rekt assholes.
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