White supremacists and counter protesters clash in Charlottesville

[Thumpalumpacus]

Opening moves especially in an operation of such scale are generally going to be chaotic .

Of course. All war is the struggle to impose the order of plans upon the chaos of battle -- and as Clausewitz (or was it Moltke the Elder) pointed out -- "No plan survives the first contact with the enemy."

[Amarok]

Opening moves especially in an operation of such scale are generally going to be chaotic .

Of course. All war is the struggle to impose the order of plans upon the chaos of battle -- and as Clausewitz (or was it Moltke the Elder) pointed out -- "No plan survives the first contact with the enemy."

Indeed waterloo , Sekigahara and Chibi show this is true

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Opening moves especially in an operation of such scale are generally going to be chaotic .

Of course. All war is the struggle to impose the order of plans upon the chaos of battle -- and as Clausewitz (or was it Moltke the Elder) pointed out -- "No plan survives the first contact with the enemy."

Or as Mike Tyson put it, 'Everyone has a plan til you get punched in the face.'

Boru

[Brian37]

Another one bites the dust!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...ailyNewsTw

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Total Eclipse Of a Fart,

Once upon a time
I was was on top
But now I'm only 
Falling apart

Nothing I can do 
A total eclipse of a fart,

And I need Bannon tonight
And I'll need the bigot forever
Calling them rapists is nice
Grabbing her pussy forgive her

I don't know what to do
I'm always in the dark
Powder keg hatred
Giving off a spark

Every now and then 
He falls a part
And we dont need you now
Or tonight

And we don't need you ever
And Impeachment will only be right
Neo Nazis and KKK
Should never see the light

Once upon a time 
I was on top
But now I'm only 
Falling apart

Nothing I can do
A total eclipse of a fart!

[Secular Elf]

I too am a fellow Southerner with a Confederate ancestor.  My position on the removal of public Confederate monuments is rather apathetic.  I really don't care one way or the other.  The Civil War has  been over for over 150 years now.  We lost.  We Southerners need to get over it.  Remember our past yes, but try to bring it all back, no.

I've got a LOT of Confederate ancestors.  lol

Elfquest rocks.
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Yes it does.