A-T seems to think that having loyal house niggers means he's in the right. 

(August 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm)Khemikal Wrote: A-T seems to think that having loyal house niggers means he's in the right. 

Yep sure would suck if they actually were treated equally instead of like pets or guests or labor.

(August 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm)Khemikal Wrote: A-T seems to think that having loyal house niggers means he's in the right. 

That there's Black Southerners who support the Confederate Flag and Confederate Monuments really gripes your ass, doesn't it. 

lol, a black guy with a pickup truck? You sure that ain't photoshopped?

Nah.  There are stupid people all over.  We have you, for example.

Uncle Toms one and all . It's not bigoted to them such.

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(August 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Nah.  There are stupid people all over.  We have you, for example.

Indeed a equality of stupid

(August 18, 2017 at 6:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(August 18, 2017 at 6:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: And I'm asking you to link to the post which made you think that was the case. You can either do it or you cannot. And if you cannot, perhaps you should stop levying a baseless charge.

What was said in this thread was that even people who do not think of themselves as racist can contribute to racism by being thoughtless. That's a paraphrase, and not an exact quote, but I'm sure it's accurate. If it isn't, I welcome correction.

But I'd like to see the post that got your jimmies rustled.

They all make me feel that's the case. Since all I'm saying here is that I don't think it's right to label all these people racist or say that they are all "acting racist", and we are still arguing, then it seemed like that is where our difference in opinion lies. If not, then maybe we are misunderstanding each other's position.

CL, how many times do we have to repeat "Not all" is not an argument. Nobody is talking about you personally. But why is it you have no problem rightfully thinking about Muslims, "stop using your Koran to justify violence". Are you saying all Muslims do that, or just that you wish the ones who do would stop?

If you think it is ok to leave monuments up that contain hero status that glorify men who fought to keep slaves, what do you want us to say? You don't have to be a bigot yourself, but you are unwittingly giving a voice to the very same people you say you are not.

Come on CL you have been here how many years, instead of having a kneejerk reaction, try considering that we are onto something, that by doing, will put those bigots in place.

If you really thought all of us here were out to get you just because we say, "You're going about this the wrong way", then you really don't know us as well as you think you do. And you are also insulting our intellect by being so stubborn.

NOBODY THINKS YOU ARE A BIGOT, but you are unwittingly giving bigots a voice by not understanding our position.

Now I have watched that night rally where nobody had Nazi Symbols or KKK symbols, but all of them were SHOUTING racist and homophobic things. That is on video and is not in dispute. And it got worse the next day when the Nazi and KKK symbols were there with bigots with machine guns. 

So when you say, "not all" I don't care. If you stand next to those people and say, "leave the statues there", you are saying to them their racism is justified, whether you want to accept that or not. So if you think their racism is not justified, DON'T STAND NEXT TO THEM.

I cant simplify it any more than that.

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(August 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(August 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm)Khemikal Wrote: A-T seems to think that having loyal house niggers means he's in the right. 

That there's Black Southerners who support the Confederate Flag and Confederate Monuments really gripes your ass, doesn't it. 

NO, just the opposite. It is blacks both in the north and the south who don't support keeping them that grips your ass. You have a problem with whites who agree with blacks they should not be glorified? 

The fact that some do agree with you, is a big SO WHAT, none of that makes slavery good.

Again, sure they have a legal right to express support of racist symbolism sure, but again, that is like saying "Jews for Hitler". Sure you have a legal right to staple your own nuts to the wall, but why would you?

This isn't a major league sports draft asshole. You don't get to say, "Look we have negros too". Civil War icons, and monuments that have wordage painting those men who wanted to keep slavery are NOT HEROS. So if you don't support slavery pointing to blacks is still not an argument because there are other blacks who DONT AGREE WITH YOU and it still would not make slavery good in any case. 

How about listening to the blacks that don't agree with your side instead of coddling the KKK members and Nazis who love this division.

(August 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: lol, a black guy with a pickup truck? You sure that ain't photoshopped?

I'm offended that you actually think I would stoop to something like that. 

(August 18, 2017 at 5:07 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(August 18, 2017 at 2:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The people who were marching to keep the statues up were self-avowed supremacists.

See for yourself:





(In case you don't know what "N.S.M." stands for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_S...ed_States))

Marchers from the night before:



These are the people marching to keep those statues up. Do you really think they value historical fidelity? After all, many of these same folk are undoubtedly Holocaust deniers.

Do you really think they give a shit about their Southern "heritage"? Many if not most of them came from all across the nation.

They do not care about history or heritage. They are marching in order to glorify the subjugation of blacks, and to defend honoring that subjugation with public reminders. They are marching trying to grow their movement. If you want to be neutral, that's your business. Me, I'll keep in mind the dictum that "all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing."

I cannot and will not be neutral in this matter. I've fought for my country before, and I will continue to do so, in order to keep these Herrenvolk away from power.

Strange how people can look at something and interpret it many different ways, huh. Some of the Southerners below were protesting to keep the Stars and Bars flying. Would you say these guys don't give a shit about their Southern heritage, or that they're racist because they support the Stars and Bars?







"The Confederate flag never called me N****r but Blacks and Liberals did."


H.K. Edgerton, former NAACP chapter president. 

Wow.  Way to avoid responding to Thump's post before the one you have quoted here, directed specifically at you, point by point.  Hmm...I wonder why that would be?  Easier to just shit all over the board rather than actually engage an individual in a debate, eh?

(August 18, 2017 at 8:08 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(August 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: lol, a black guy with a pickup truck? You sure that ain't photoshopped?

I'm offended that you actually think I would stoop to something like that. 

We don't care if it was are not, boy your sarcasm meter is fucking broken.

BOTTOM LINE, slavery was bad, and only one side fought to keep it.

If you support glorifying those men and those icons you are supporting a dark side of our history.