(September 6, 2017 at 7:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(September 6, 2017 at 7:16 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Really?

Lol, that's not even religious music though, is it??

That's what I was saying about the chanting too.  Who can tell?

Much of Bach's music was inspired by his faith, given that much of what he wrote was for services.

At the very least, the organs he wrote for were usually, if not always, built into churches. The harmonium had yet to be invented, and I don't think it would have done his works justice.






I do understand he was certainly open to new instruments (as his reaction to Frederick the Great's pianoforte just before composing "The Musical Offering" demonstrated), but in this case, it just feels like the piece is being sandbagged. And Bach certainly didn't have a lot of options with his organs, at any rate.

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(September 6, 2017 at 7:47 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Flannery O'Connor ! One great American writer. She wrote from a Catholic perspective but this is not immediately apparent when reading her works. She stated in a biography that without Jesus there in no salvation. Therefore her characters were all existential nightmares. Regardless of her agenda her two novels and works of short fiction are on my top ten list for best American fiction.

Yeah, it can be strange to contemplate her faith, especially given that the way she seems to treat her faith in her fiction, it almost seems like Cthulhu worship combined with Catholicism, the way the characters act.

Still may be the closest analog American literature has to Dostoevsky. Except maybe late Paddy Chayefsky, but that was mostly film.

Are you sure the School of Athens counts as Catholic art? I ask because, of the identifiable figures in the painting, only one (the yellow-cloaked man in the lower left-hand corner who may be Boethius, if he's not Anaximander) is actually even Christian; and even then, his most famous work The Consolation of Philosophy is so steeped in traditional Platonism and divorced from his Catholicism that Arnaldo Momigliano (in an admittedly minority view) seemed to believe that his faith in Christianity had collapsed by the time he wrote it and somehow not even managed to notice.

Yes, it is in the Vatican, but it doesn't even try to have an actual connection with Christianity. Even Michelangelo's David at least claimed some direct connection with King David (at this point, I'm convinced it may originally have started off as a tribute to one of Michelangelo's boyfriends and he just claimed it was King David and hoped the Borgias, likely incuding then-pope Alexander VI, wouldn't have noticed he wasn't circumcised).

Catholic Banned!

Woot.

(September 6, 2017 at 7:21 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(September 6, 2017 at 3:03 pm)Cyberman Wrote: "Mickey"?

Sort of like a younger Trump referring to Reagan as "Ronnie" to emphasize his own fictional significance and closeness to the powerful.

It's the same sort of inappropriate familiarity that we get in situations like the Gulf Wars. Bush and Blair were referred to in the media by their titles, but Saddam Hussein was always called by his first name, to reinforce a pecking order. To illustrate, imagine if the Iraq Times ran reports such as "Yesterday, the city was bombed by George and Tony".

(September 6, 2017 at 11:04 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Are you sure the School of Athens counts as Catholic art?

I'm using patronage and affiliation as my main criteria not subject matter. Even still, the context is important. It's one of a series of frescos having to do with the growth and spread of Christianity. During the Renaissance making connections to the classical past was believed to give the faith more credibility.

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(September 7, 2017 at 6:25 am)Cyberman Wrote:

(September 6, 2017 at 7:21 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Sort of like a younger Trump referring to Reagan as "Ronnie" to emphasize his own fictional significance and closeness to the powerful.

It's the same sort of inappropriate familiarity that we get in situations like the Gulf Wars. Bush and Blair were referred to in the media by their titles, but Saddam Hussein was always called by his first name, to reinforce a pecking order. To illustrate, imagine if the Iraq Times ran reports such as "Yesterday, the city was bombed by George and Tony".

It's a joke.