(October 13, 2017 at 3:13 pm)Divinity Wrote:

(October 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: If Obama and God disagree on something; it doesn't mean they are so different. One of them is copy-catting the other and playing his role. Obama is the copycat in my view. God prohibited homosexuality; Obama legalized homosexuality.

I see it as a difference in opinions; that's all. We theists prefer to be on God's side of the deal. IDK; but it stinks to believe serial killers get away with what they do after death. Afterlife seems more of a decent belief.

God prohibiting homosexuality is a large part of what makes him a fucking prick.  Fuck any god that outlaws homosexuality.  He can go fuck himself.  Fuck Jesus, Fuck Muhammed, Fuck Allah, and fuck all of them.

You're pretty much putting homosexuals on the same level as serial killers here btw.  So fuck you too.

What I'll enjoy a lot now; is searching for the proper transexual tube to watch me some sissy porn.
So; yeah fuck me.

No; I'm not putting homosexuals at the same level of serial killers.
Take the word "wrong".
Pedophilia is wrong.
2+2=15 is also wrong.

Is wrong addition = pedophilia?
Or do they both share "wrong" as a very broad label?

I choose the latter. You see what you wanna choose.

The idea that someone would declare that something an adult does with another adult consensually is any of their fucking business is what's wrong.

God: I'm going to give you all free will. BUT DON'T DARE USE IT IN A WAY I DON'T INTEND OR I WILL PUNISH YOU FOREVER!

I mean God is going to punish everyone all the same. Gay people, serial killers, thieves, non-believers. Maybe that makes sense to you, but it sure as fuck doesn't to me. My youngest daughter is a lesbian, and she's a billion times the person most religious nuts are. Yet, this god if he existed would still send her to hell because she is gay. That's so fucking stupidly unbelievable. And don't say she should repent, because she doesn't have a goddamn thing to repent for. If this god exists, HE is the one who should repent, because his followers treat LGBT people like absolute shit. Making their lives on earth a complete hell.

(October 13, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Divinity Wrote: The idea that someone would declare that something an adult does with another adult consensually is any of their fucking business is what's wrong.

God: I'm going to give you all free will.  BUT DON'T DARE USE IT IN A WAY I DON'T INTEND OR I WILL PUNISH YOU FOREVER!

I mean God is going to punish everyone all the same.  Gay people, serial killers, thieves, non-believers.  Maybe that makes sense to you, but it sure as fuck doesn't to me.  My youngest daughter is a lesbian, and she's a billion times the person most religious nuts are.   Yet, this god if he existed would still send her to hell because she is gay.  That's so fucking stupidly unbelievable.  And don't say she should repent, because she doesn't have a goddamn thing to repent for.  If this god exists, HE is the one who should repent, because his followers treat LGBT people like absolute shit.  Making their lives on earth a complete hell.

It’s almost like religion was a tool created by competing tribes in order to enforce group cohesion, with strict rules about breeding to ensure that the good tribe (which are all of them, from their own individual POV) out-populated it’s competitors.

(October 13, 2017 at 3:24 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I really don't get it, how can we make an islamist like yourself happy?  If I tell you we aren't the great satan you bitch and moan and argue. 

I don't know what you're talking about; since this is my belief against Satan:

Quote:Sura 4, The Quran:
( 76 )   Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.

He's not great or anything.

Moreover:

Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
( 62 )   [Satan] said, "Do You see this one whom You have honored above me? If You delay me until the Day of Resurrection, I will surely destroy his descendants, except for a few."
( 63 )   [Allah] said, "Go, for whoever of them follows you, indeed Hell will be the recompense of you - an ample recompense.
( 64 )   And incite [to senselessness] whoever you can among them with your voice and assault them with your horses and foot soldiers and become a partner in their wealth and their children and promise them." But Satan does not promise them except delusion.
( 65 )   Indeed, over My [believing] servants there is for you no authority. And sufficient is your Lord as Disposer of affairs.

Satan might be great in your head if you love metal or practice Sunni/Shiite doctrines and propaganda, but in my belief he is one desperate psychopath with no power at all. All he can do is whisper sinful acts into your head; eventually it's your hands doing the sin; he seduces only.

If you want to make me happy; stop pushing for wars, death and hellish doctrines like nationalism, racism, seeing interest only when dealing with peoples' fates; calling the game "politics", and stop killing 6 Million people and call it victory.

Quote:That it's impossible for you to accept the failure of islamist society without an external aggressor.

I actually know exactly why "Islamists" suck:

Quote:Sura 23, The Quran:
( 52 )   And indeed this, your religion, is one religion, and I am your Lord, so fear Me."
( 53 )   But the people divided their religion among them into sects - each faction, in what it has, rejoicing.
( 54 )   So leave them in their confusion for a time.
( 55 )   Do they think that what We extend to them of wealth and children
( 56 )   Is [because] We hasten for them good things? Rather, they do not perceive.

Verse 52 describes exactly what Islamists are: people who divided their religion into different sects.
The one became...how many? I lost count to be honest with you
So; since that prophecy came into existence, I jumped to verse 54: "Leave them in their confusion for a time".
The west will play soccer with them. Life will tear them to pieces. That's what you get when you choose ISIS over the Quran; dividing your religion into sects, and this is what you get when you choose the Shiite Hadiths over the Quran.
Another interesting verse:

Quote:Sura 8, The Quran:
( 46 )   And obey Allah and His Messenger, and do not dispute and [thus] lose courage and [then] your strength would depart; and be patient. Indeed, Allah is with the patient.
( 47 )   And do not be like those who came forth from their homes insolently and to be seen by people and avert [them] from the way of Allah. And Allah is encompassing of what they do.
( 48 )   And [remember] when Satan made their deeds pleasing to them and said, "No one can overcome you today from among the people, and indeed, I am your protector." But when the two armies sighted each other, he turned on his heels and said, "Indeed, I am disassociated from you. Indeed, I see what you do not see; indeed I fear Allah. And Allah is severe in penalty."

So it's when this religion becomes sects; and when Muslims dispute among each other, things turn ugly for them. So it's no surprise.
I don't take sides. Don't you ever put loyalty flags on my shoulders; Islamists are not on my side just like the west is not on mine. I'm standing alone in this life; it's a grim reality but at least I get my peace of mind when I hear about the crimes done in the names of different faiths and doctrines.

Quote:Western civilization has already been through that phase, where they blamed the failures of christendom on pagans, atheists...muslims...

Ever heard the current right wing propaganda in western societies?
The right advanced a lot in both Germany and France; and semi-rightists like Trump already took presidential seats. The west is taking "a break" after butchering 60 Million people in WW2, it is a matter of time before it returns to the butchering, and this time I don't think anything will remain.

Not my opinion; it's Einstein 's opinion:



Don't let the lights of modern Broadway stun you. Remember what Albert said. And WW2 didn't even complete a 100 year span.

Quote:Maybe you should read a page from our history and pass go, collect your 200 dollars?

In my readings; when idiots own super power they doom us all.
Just like the idiots that fought for centuries over the throne in the War of The Roses:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Roses

Quote:.you might find yourself in the same scenario your predecessors (and mine) did

No. Stay away from invasions, and I will never hurt you. I will stay as far as possible. But don't you ever jump to the support of my rivals or invade me; like what happened in the Crusades, or during WW1, or when France invaded Egypt, or when the Mongols butchered the citizens of Baghdad, or the Buddhists genociding the Rohingya in Myanmar, or the Arab invasion of Spain, or the Ottomann invasions of Europe.

But the thing is clear and simple: don't invade my house. Leave me alone. I'll also leave you alone.

Quote:when, after we ate ourselves from the inside out...other cultures were free to rape and pillage their previously influencial neighbors for anything of value and then claim it as their own?

What do you mean?

I clearly should have known better, lol.

(October 13, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Divinity Wrote: The idea that someone would declare that something an adult does with another adult consensually is any of their fucking business is what's wrong.

God: I'm going to give you all free will.  BUT DON'T DARE USE IT IN A WAY I DON'T INTEND OR I WILL PUNISH YOU FOREVER!

I mean God is going to punish everyone all the same.  Gay people, serial killers, thieves, non-believers.  Maybe that makes sense to you, but it sure as fuck doesn't to me.  My youngest daughter is a lesbian, and she's a billion times the person most religious nuts are.   Yet, this god if he existed would still send her to hell because she is gay.  That's so fucking stupidly unbelievable.  And don't say she should repent, because she doesn't have a goddamn thing to repent for.  If this god exists, HE is the one who should repent, because his followers treat LGBT people like absolute shit.  Making their lives on earth a complete hell.

That's between you and him. The concept of God in my perspective, is that he's the highest thing in a person's life. So it's not like he's a person or a cop or an authority, he is a creator, and you are a creation; an element.

When free will is used to hurt other creations; regulations must be presented. Homosexuality hurts members of the opposite gender I know well, that every time I enjoy it, I'm stepping furthermore from women. The result is that there are women who won't have me; and men who won't have the gay women.

So Sandy is walking by. Smith walks run into her but ignores her because he's thinking about Natalie who is a transexual . That way; an encounter with the one was just wasted; both will remain lonely and both will not find the one (because obviously; Smith was so busy smelling Transexual ass).
Burning this verse away:

Quote:Sura 30, The Quran:
( 21 )   And of His signs is that He created for you from yourselves mates that you may find tranquillity in them; and He placed between you affection and mercy. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought.

And the punishment is never the same; this verse says:

Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
( 131 )   That is because your Lord would not destroy the cities for wrongdoing while their people were unaware.

( 132 )   And for all are degrees from what they have done. And your Lord is not unaware of what they do.

God might send your daughter to heaven. I don't know what he might will. according to this verse:

Quote:Sura 4, The Quran:
( 116 )   Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly gone far astray.

Homosexuality is not association of other deities with God.
Forgiving each and every one of us is the hand of God.

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(October 14, 2017 at 1:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: I clearly should have known better, lol.

Oh well, if Einstein said it...

(October 14, 2017 at 2:23 am)Cyberman Wrote: Oh well, if Einstein said it...

I wouldn't dismiss his opinion so easily; if I were you, even though he just invented the atomic bomb.

Einstein was talking about global nuclear war and using near hyperbole.

The fight for rationalism can be won, with education and empathy.

(October 14, 2017 at 1:31 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Einstein was talking about global nuclear war and using near hyperbole.

The fight for rationalism can be won, with education and empathy.

What is your feeling after knowing that your comment was misleading, not accurate and a mere empty lie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_...n_of_WWIII

Quote:Views on the likely outcome and definition of WWIII

In 1949, after the unleashing of nuclear weaponry at the end of WWII, physicist Albert Einstein suggested that any outcome of a possible WWIII would be so dire as to revert mankind back to the Stone Age. When asked by journalist Alfred Werner, what types of weapons Einstein believed World War III might be fought with, Einstein warned, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". By inference, it must be deduced here that Einstein assumed that World War III would either exterminate, or else nearly exterminate the human race (presumably due to nuclear warfare).[1]

Einstein was dead serious.