(October 16, 2017 at 8:47 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(October 16, 2017 at 7:39 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: What ? That guy just explains the psychology behind the sins , it has nothing to do with religion .

No, he gives his/the religions opinion on why he thinks lust is a sin. They are incorrect. Sex, sexual desire, lust, in an of itself, is not a sin. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_desire

Yeah , i read the article .
Interesting one also . The 7 sins that are in the video , I don't consider them something to be punished for , they are concepts of our mental state , primal ones so I don't think that you should let yourself be ruled by them , but you shouldn't stop doing them because someone tells you but because you understand what they are and how they affect the quality of your life.
Sex drive is the mechanism that i was speaking about not sexual desire aparently. But sexual desire has also a biological root because of sex drive, In my opinion one should stick just to the biological sexual desire and if that also afects the quality of your life you need to find a way to convince yourself that is not that important . Shuting it off is not a solution.

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(October 16, 2017 at 8:56 am)Cyberman Wrote: And also please stop telling people how they feel, if you'd be so kind?

Where did I told people what they feel ?

(October 16, 2017 at 9:11 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Yeah , i read the article .
Interesting one also . The 7 sins that are in the video , I don't consider them something to be punished for , they are concepts of our mental state , primal ones so I don't think that you should let yourself be ruled by them , but you shouldn't stop doing them because someone tells you but because you understand what they are and how they affect the quality of your life.
Sex drive is the mechanism that i was speaking about not sexual desire aparently. But sexual desire has also a biological root because of sex drive, In my opinion one should stick just to the biological sexual desire and if that also afects the quality of your life you need to find a way to convince yourself that is not that important . Shuting it off is not a solution.

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Affect quality of life according to the churches definitions. No thanks. I'll make my own quality of life definitions and determinations. 

Are you stating that sex should only be for procreation?

(October 16, 2017 at 10:05 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Affect quality of life according to the churches definitions. No thanks. I'll make my own quality of life definitions and determinations. 

Are you stating that sex should only be for procreation?

No , I'm stating that you shouldn't let sex rule your life.
Okey. Somwhere in the bible says that is a sin to eat too much.
Eating to much opens to posibility that you would get obesse , you are obesse you have a big chance to have hearth problems becaues of that. Proved to you that sins have a reason behind of them , but you shouldn't follow them blindly .

I dont let seccs rool mi life, but I doo eat to mach.

(October 16, 2017 at 9:11 am)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(October 16, 2017 at 8:56 am)Cyberman Wrote: And also please stop telling people how they feel, if you'd be so kind?

Where did I told people what they feel ?

(October 16, 2017 at 7:16 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: So the thing you want to turn off is lust not sexual desire (maybe).

Qualifying it with "maybe" doesn't get you off the hook. You should have posed it in the form of a question, rather than a speculative statement. Unless you know how I and other respondents feel, you are not in a position to do so.

After a surgery I was on some painkillers for a bit, and one of the side effects I rolled was no sex drive. Was rather odd. Overall, didn't care for it.

But I'm on team gets sex. I don't think anyone who's getting sex when they want it here has come out against wanting sex.

(October 16, 2017 at 10:12 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: No , I'm stating that you shouldn't let sex rule your life.
Okey. Somwhere in the bible says that is a sin to eat too much.
Eating to much opens to posibility that you would get obesse , you are obesse you have a big chance to have hearth problems becaues of that. Proved to you that sins have a reason behind of them , but you shouldn't follow them blindly .

Define "rule your life". 

So now we change the subject from sex to eating/obesity. OK

Why do I need a god/religion/church to tell me what is or is not good for me? I will make that determination for myself, whether it's sex/food/drugs/gambling/work/sports/..... any activity or life style. I get to choose my quality of life. My choice's may or may not affect my quantity of life but that is none of religions business. 

The only thing religion is doing for you in this discussion is giving you a platform to pass judgement on another's behavior. Ever heard of "glass house"?

By the way, I take note that the church/religion didn't make a sin out of intentional starvation (anorexia), at least not that I know of.

(October 16, 2017 at 10:42 am)Cyberman Wrote:

(October 16, 2017 at 9:11 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: Where did I told people what they feel ?

(October 16, 2017 at 7:16 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: So the thing you want to turn off is lust not sexual desire (maybe).

Qualifying it with "maybe" doesn't get you off the hook. You should have posed it in the form of a question, rather than a speculative statement. Unless you know how I and other respondents feel, you are not in a position to do so.

You are right , sorry .

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(October 16, 2017 at 10:44 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(October 16, 2017 at 10:12 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: No , I'm stating that you shouldn't let sex rule your life.
Okey. Somwhere in the bible says that is a sin to eat too much.
Eating to much opens to posibility that you would get obesse , you are obesse you have a big chance to have hearth problems becaues of that. Proved to you that sins have a reason behind of them , but you shouldn't follow them blindly .

Define "rule your life". 

So now we change the subject from sex to eating/obesity. OK

Why do I need a god/religion/church to tell me what is or is not good for me? I will make that determination for myself, whether it's sex/food/drugs/gambling/work/sports/..... any activity or life style. I get to choose my quality of life. My choice's may or may not affect my quantity of life but that is none of religions business. 

The only thing religion is doing for you in this discussion is giving you a platform to pass judgement on another's behavior. Ever heard of "glass house"?

By the way, I take note that the church/religion didn't make a sin out of intentional starvation (anorexia), at least not that I know of.

I sayed that you don t need it , just proved to you that information from the bible has reason BIBLE( i didn t sayed god nor religio nor church) .What do you think "you shouldn't folow them blindly" means ?. I do not pass judgement , I just explained why abuse is unhealthy. A lot of sex with different persons -> HIV. I never sayed in my statements that i don't abuse ( I'm a smoker , i know what smoking does to me but I'm ignorant ) nor that I'm an exception to these abusing behaviorn nor did I took a higher ground , I just explained why I thin kit's not good.
If  I use something from the bible it automaticly makes you think that I care much of religion ? No I don't.
I think that everyone could take good informatiin from everywhere , so that is why I'm defending the bible. If it is not good for you it doesn't mean it isn't good at all.

(October 16, 2017 at 11:23 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: [edit]
....so that is why I'm defending the bible. 
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http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/