(October 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I teach disdain at the college level. 

I admit it , you almost made my angry.

So?

(October 18, 2017 at 12:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 12:09 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: I admit it , you almost made my angry.

So?

Not carring for someone elses feelings sounds barbaric.

notimportant1234 Wrote:I can't see it right now , but from what I know not believing that something is true means you believe it's false.

Look at it like this: If you don't believe I have exactly 1.54 American dollars in my pocket (because you don't know what's in my pocket), does that necessarily mean that you believe I don't have 1.54 American dollars in my pocket? Because I could, Y'know; so why would you believe I don't?

(October 18, 2017 at 12:41 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

notimportant1234 Wrote:I can't see it right now , but from what I know not believing that something is true means you believe it's false.

Look at it like this: If you don't believe I have exactly 1.54 American dollars in my pocket (because you don't know what's in my pocket), does that necessarily mean that you believe I don't have 1.54 American dollars in my pocket? Because I could, Y'know; so why would you believe I don't?

I can't believe it 😂😂😂, so amusing.
I was talking with a friend about the Schopenhour experiment( i hope I spelled it corectly) today , when we were skipping class at a coffe shop.

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It's not like I think that is imposible to not know if something is true or false . I was debating that if you didn't believe something you can't pursue it but blind to the fact that was the case too if you believed. I guess I wanted to much to vin the argument this time

(October 18, 2017 at 12:46 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: [quote pid='1640524' dateline='1508344864']
I was debating that if you didn't believe something you can't pursue it but blind to the fact that was the case too if you believed.

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I don't know what that means.

(October 18, 2017 at 12:35 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 12:34 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So?

Not carring for someone elses feelings sounds barbaric.

Oh, I'm a barbarian alright, I used to kill people for $247/month, gross. But there are times when I work pro bono.

The theist that thinks I deserve hell just because I am honest in not believing their claims; well that sounds barbaric to me.

Do I deserve eternal torture for being honest about my genuine doubts?

(October 18, 2017 at 2:16 pm)JackRussell Wrote: The theist that thinks I deserve hell just because I am honest in not believing their claims; well that sounds barbaric to me.

Do I deserve eternal torture for being honest about my genuine doubts?

Are you saying that if some theists act dumb you should act dumb too ?

Because you don't believe in God nor religion you have the right to be imoral?

(October 18, 2017 at 2:32 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote:

(October 18, 2017 at 2:16 pm)JackRussell Wrote: The theist that thinks I deserve hell just because I am honest in not believing their claims; well that sounds barbaric to me.

Do I deserve eternal torture for being honest about my genuine doubts?

Are you saying that if some theists act dumb you should act dumb too ?

Because you don't believe in God nor religion you have the right to be imoral?

Nope,

I don't care if you are theist or atheist, dumb or smart.

I certainly don't think I want to be immoral.

I want to increase wellbeing, act in accordance with what's best for all inhabitants of the planet and try to do right, even though I may make mistakes or be in error sometimes.

I don't think I deserve to be tortured for eternity because I am not convinced god(s) exist.

It's not about acting dumb. Wether you believe in god or not, people can sometimes act dumb.

I would forgive people for that, especially if they change their behaviour and make amends,

God (in some interpretations) will torture you eternally for being intellectually honest with the evidence available to you.

I am more moral than that.

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Well thanks for the kudos.

I'm not sure what you understand though.

This thread started from an idiot saying the ToE is a hoax, that's a huge and demonstrable lie:

I don't care if you are a theist or not, but do you understand evolution is a fact?

In my opinion theists are completely wrong when saying who should go to hell.
First of all , one of the most important storyes in the bible is that of " Jesus and Magdalena", acording to that story they should never judge others.
I met a monk once , he told us a story , it went something like this:
3 people where on an island , isolated and started to pray to God(without the knowledge of any religion) , after sometime a high priest arrived there with a ship and asked the 3 persones to tell them how they pray , dont remember the exact words but it was something ilogical ,after the priest heard how they were praying sayed that this isn't the correct prayer and told them the one that they should use.
After the priest left the island the 3 people wanted to pray in the way that he taught them but forgot , so they went after him and yelled " Stop, we forghot the prayer", the priest turned and saw them running on water , he sayed " go back to the island because you don't nees my prayer". The second reason why theist shouldn't assume who goes to hell.