(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote: Then there is absolutely no point having any kind of discussion with you on anysubject, because whetever the subject you will always be able to cop out on the basis of your nihilism or whatever fancy name you choose to give it.

No point in having a discussion with a troll either. You have huge misconceptions of atheism. Huge misconceptions.

(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote: [...] I think that is kinda what I was trying to say when I was going on (and on (and on(...))) elsewhere (in other threads) about wanting to form a kind of atheist church-like thingy-whatsname. Like ... er ... you gotta sort of join 'em to sort of beat 'em (or "woo" them would perhaps be a better word than "beat")....

Have you not come across Humanism as a kind of... erm... you know... secular type religious-substitute thingy? Ever thought about joining a Humanist group or society, or promoting rationalist, secular principles in some other active or positive way?

International Humanist and Ethical Union

Don't think he's ever heard of them. Just keeps going back to atheism for action or solution as he put in a previous post. Definitely running in the wrong direction.
We need to put up some sign posts....

So it would seem Ace and THWOTH.. 'rednose' does appear to want to be an activist "of some bizzare" flavour

(August 24, 2011 at 9:24 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: How far did you get at school??

Nowhere. Dropped out dead early and started chasing money.

However I have had a great time and my children have done well and their children seem dead bright - and they are all atheists.

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(August 24, 2011 at 9:31 am)THWOTH Wrote:

(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote: [...] I think that is kinda what I was trying to say when I was going on (and on (and on(...))) elsewhere (in other threads) about wanting to form a kind of atheist church-like thingy-whatsname. Like ... er ... you gotta sort of join 'em to sort of beat 'em (or "woo" them would perhaps be a better word than "beat")....

Have you not come across Humanism as a kind of... erm... you know... secular type religious-substitute thingy? Ever thought about joining a Humanist group or society, or promoting rationalist, secular principles in some other active or positive way?

International Humanist and Ethical Union

Yeah. The one's around hear are completely bonkers. They just sit around telling each other what books to read and giving talks on comparative religion.

Oh yeah, and they are completely dependent upon the Quakers (a religious group) for their premises, so you have to be careful what you say about there being no god and that.

(August 24, 2011 at 9:42 am)Godnose Wrote:

(August 24, 2011 at 9:24 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: How far did you get at school??

Nowhere. Dropped out dead early and started chasing money.

However I have had a great time and my children have done well and their children seem dead bright - and they are all atheists.

So why the evangelism?? Your children and grandchildren are not going to thank you for not leaving them anything to do...

No..atheism most definitely does NOT need a 'church' the fact that there is no central figure is our strength. As has been demonstrated by Anonymous and Al-Qaeda.

Sign your Census forms as 'Atheist' by all means. Leave the "evangelism" to the fundies...they are better at it ya know.

So where is the ice cream?? I'm sure I ordered Ice-Cream with Chocolate syrup.

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Ya know what I cheerfully Need??

COFFEE!! and ice cream!!

This is getting tedious. Think I'll fvck off now...

(August 24, 2011 at 9:42 am)Godnose Wrote:

(August 24, 2011 at 9:31 am)THWOTH Wrote:

(August 24, 2011 at 8:51 am)Godnose Wrote: [...] I think that is kinda what I was trying to say when I was going on (and on (and on(...))) elsewhere (in other threads) about wanting to form a kind of atheist church-like thingy-whatsname. Like ... er ... you gotta sort of join 'em to sort of beat 'em (or "woo" them would perhaps be a better word than "beat")....

Have you not come across Humanism as a kind of... erm... you know... secular type religious-substitute thingy? Ever thought about joining a Humanist group or society, or promoting rationalist, secular principles in some other active or positive way?

International Humanist and Ethical Union

Yeah. The one's around hear are completely bonkers. They just sit around telling each other what books to read and giving talks on comparative religion.

Perhaps they need a dynamic go-getter to shake 'em up a bit? Perhaps that could even be you? In the UK we have the Sceptics In The Pub umbrella which is drawing in more and more people to discuss rational and secular issues - now there's an idea don't you think, reason and beer?

(August 24, 2011 at 9:42 am)Godnose Wrote: Oh yeah, and they are completely dependent upon the Quakers (a religious group) for their premises, so you have to be careful what you say about there being no god and that.

Well, that's kind of the Quakers and wholly to their credit don't you think? One should also remember that Quarkers are secularists as well so immediately there is some common ground.

(August 24, 2011 at 9:59 am)Godnose Wrote: This is getting tedious. Think I'll fvck off now...

FINALLY!