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The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
#81
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 2, 2018 at 12:17 am)Khemikal Wrote: -said the other idiot, down the next street. You're all making shit up, lol...the people who wrote magic book were making shit up too, and the most accurate translation of made up shit is still made up shit. It's the one thing you all have in common. The genuine christian tradition.
That's rich...

You're the king of spewing unsubstantiated nonsense that takes little effort to debunk, yet you somehow were voted as the "best debater." Dodgy

And you guys call theists delusional, lol.
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#82
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
Oh, I see..and do you agree with Hiapules version of christianity? He says you're an idiot. What say you? Lemme guess...you've got it right and he's the idiot.

Repeat ad infinitum.

(don't get jelly just cuz I win shit, the lord thy god frowns upon that)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#83
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 2, 2018 at 5:20 am)Khemikal Wrote: Oh, I see..and do you agree with Hiapules version of christianity? He says you're an idiot. What say you? Lemme guess...you've got it right and he's the idiot.

Repeat ad infinitum.

(don't get jelly just cuz I win shit, the lord thy god frowns upon that)

If Haipules position can be supported biblically then we are in agreement, if his position cannot be supported biblically the we disagree, it's as simple as that.

Btw being jealous of your win would be kinda like being jealous over a special Olympics trophy...
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#84
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 2, 2018 at 5:57 am)Huggy74 Wrote: If Haipules position can be supported biblically then we are in agreement, if his position cannot be supported biblically the we disagree, it's as simple as that.
Uh-huh....... Rolleyes

Quote:Btw being jealous of your win would be kinda like being jealous over a special Olympics trophy...

And yet there you are, being all covetous and whatnot.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#85
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 2, 2018 at 4:43 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(February 2, 2018 at 12:17 am)Khemikal Wrote: -said the other idiot, down the next street.  You're all making shit up, lol...the people who wrote magic book were making shit up too, and the most accurate translation of made up shit is still made up shit.  It's the one thing you all have in common.  The genuine christian tradition.
That's rich...

You're the king of spewing unsubstantiated nonsense—

Says the guy who rambled on for five or so pages about a hybrid man-snake.  I can’t even...lol.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#86
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 2, 2018 at 7:13 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(February 2, 2018 at 4:43 am)Huggy74 Wrote: That's rich...

You're the king of spewing unsubstantiated nonsense—

Says the guy who rambled on for five or so pages about a hybrid man-snake.  I can’t even...lol.
First of all no one claimed it was a man-snake thats another lie.

Also it's s not something I just made up out of thin air luv, the fact that the serpent wasn't originally a snake is staight ouf of Jewish teachings...

I can post receipts if you'd like Dodgy

I notice how you couldn't deny what I said, you could only deflect on to some unrelated nonsense that isn't been true...
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#87
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
Get it right camus, it was a fucking dragon, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#88
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
That's it continue to misrepresent my position. Meanwhile you run to the mods every time I post your idiocy.
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#89
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
lol...................? Whose oppressing you know, and about what?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#90
RE: The Trinity Doctrine: Help me out, Christians
(February 2, 2018 at 3:28 am)Godscreated Wrote: It doesn't matter whether God would be God without one of the Persons of God, God is who He is and that means He is unchanging, He has always been triune and He always will be. This puts an end to arguing about the nature of God, it has been established eternally.

I'm not sure you even know what I'm arguing. I never argued that Christians like you don't believe that God is eternally triune. Unless I'm missing your point here.

Quote:Second you have stated that all three "are fully the one God." This isn't correct and you know it, you've stated it that way because you know you can use it endlessly to argue with. The correct statement is that the Father is fully God, the Son is fully God and the Holy Spirit is fully God, this means they are all of one nature, of one mind. By using "one" the way you did separates them from each other and that isn't possible.

It wasn't my intention to describe the triune God as God comprising ontologically separate Persons. I thought I was doing Christians like you a favor by stressing that each of the Persons of God are that one and same God, that they are all that one Being.

Do you agree with SteveII that each of the Persons of God are a part of God? You know, when I was a Christian, I was clearly taught that this was heresy as it minimizes the divinity of each of the Persons.

Quote:You were correct when you said the three are one God and yet they are three distinct Persons. The Father is not the head but does instruct the Son and Holy Spirit in what to do, Jesus said that He does what He sees the Father doing and Jesus also said that the Father will send the Holy Spirit after I have ascended to the Father. Jesus also said that the Father is the only one who knows when I will be sent back to claim my people, thus more proof of three separate persons.

What do you mean by "separate"? Do you mean they are parallel divine persons, rather than having the exact same being? I was taught that the Persons of God were distinct, but NOT separate. Distinct in terms of roles, but inseparable otherwise.

Quote:As you pointed out at Jesus baptisim, Jesus was the one baptised, the Holy Spirit appeared as a dove and sat upon His shoulder and the Father spoke and called Him my Son. Again we have three persons who are one God, they all three made themselves known and that they were in agreement with the beginning of Christ's ministry. Also let me mention that when you see the word LORD in all caps this is referring to the Trinity. As far as I have noticed when Jesus was called Lord in the NT only the 'L' is in caps. So all three are God and all three participate in discussions and decisions because they are of one mind and nature, yet the Father does instruct the Son and Holy Spirit in when they should do things. You might ask why would God do something this way, well it is a guide to how the family is to conduct itself. The father, mother and children are all equal partners in the family and all have a voice in the family, but like the heavenly Father the father of an earthly family instructs or makes a finial decision.

So you believe God is just a term for a family of divine entities? How are you different from the Mormons in this regard (aside from the eternal part)?
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