Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) demonstrably worked.

(February 12, 2018 at 7:30 am)shadow Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 7:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: WW2 wasn't meant to 'stop people like Hitler' - it was meant to stop Hitler.

I know, I meant, the massive devastation and loss of human life demonstrated in WW1 didn't stop Hitler from engaging in WW2.

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(February 12, 2018 at 7:13 am)chimp3 Wrote: The Cold War was very bloody. Proxy wars. Vietnam/ Korea/ Angola/ Central America/ Iran/ Cambodia. North Korea / South Korea is an example of those very real wars still being carried out.

Good point. So it was basically fought by little vassal states because the big powers were tired of their own countries being devastated?

It still begs the question, why didn't anyone bring nuclear weapons into these battles if they could end them so quickly? Or why haven't they yet... because obviously North/South Korea is currently developing on that front.

It's a common question I have a modern warfare - isn't it all a sort of mini-game of the real thing, since many countries have nuclear weapons and thus the capability to actually annihilate their opponents? Countries can't continue to seek military advantage when multiple nations already have so much military advantage that it would be, like has been pointed out, MAD to use it.

Because it is OK to spill the blood of yellow and brown skinned third world people. It is not OK to ruin economic power centers like NYC. This is the mindset of white tyrants and still is. We are fighting a proxy war in Syria right now. Trump and Putin do not give a shit if Syrians die.

I am neither brown nor yellow.

(February 12, 2018 at 8:03 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I am neither brown nor yellow.

Trump and Putin don't give a shit about you either. Just don't nuke Mar a Lago!

(February 12, 2018 at 8:10 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 8:03 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I am neither brown nor yellow.

Trump and Putin don't give a shit about you either. Just don't nuke Mar a Lago!

Just pointing out the fact that the "surrogate" idea has problems.

(February 12, 2018 at 8:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 8:10 am)chimp3 Wrote: Trump and Putin don't give a shit about you either. Just don't nuke Mar a Lago!

Just pointing out the fact that the "surrogate" idea has problems.

Why do you think we still have human soldiers with such advanced, long range weaponry available?

(February 12, 2018 at 8:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 8:10 am)chimp3 Wrote: Trump and Putin don't give a shit about you either. Just don't nuke Mar a Lago!

Just pointing out the fact that the "surrogate" idea has problems.

I remember the evening news and the coffins returning to the US. from Viet Nam. Still a surrogate war. Nixon had no concern for the soldiers lives.

(February 12, 2018 at 8:18 am)shadow Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 8:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Just pointing out the fact that the "surrogate" idea has problems.

Why do you think we still have human soldiers with such advanced, long range weaponry available?

Why did you quote me?

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(February 12, 2018 at 8:20 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 8:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Just pointing out the fact that the "surrogate" idea has problems.

I remember the evening news and the coffins returning to the US. from Viet Nam. Still a surrogate war. Nixon had no concern for the soldiers lives.

You spin is noted.

(February 12, 2018 at 8:00 am)chimp3 Wrote: Because it is OK to spill the blood of yellow and brown skinned third world people. It is not OK to ruin economic power centers like NYC. This is the mindset of white tyrants and still is. We are fighting a proxy war in Syria right now. Trump and Putin do not give a shit if Syrians die.

Well, destruction of Hamburg and Dresden wasn't exactly just spilling the blood of brown and yellow skinned people. And such acts did destroy economic power centers.

(February 12, 2018 at 8:53 am)polymath257 Wrote:

(February 12, 2018 at 8:00 am)chimp3 Wrote: Because it is OK to spill the blood of yellow and brown skinned third world people. It is not OK to ruin economic power centers like NYC. This is the mindset of white tyrants and still is. We are fighting a proxy war in Syria right now. Trump and Putin do not give a shit if Syrians die.

Well, destruction of Hamburg and Dresden wasn't exactly just spilling the blood of brown and yellow skinned people. And such acts did destroy economic power centers.

"Rain of ruin" is a legitimate act of war.