(April 7, 2018 at 11:36 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: * SteelCurtain slaps Camoo on the nose with a rolled up magazine...

Ow!  What did I do?! Besides feed the troll, that is. 😏

(April 7, 2018 at 11:39 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Ow!  What did I do?! Besides feed the troll, that is. 😏

Yup. Bad Camoo!

(April 7, 2018 at 11:48 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(April 7, 2018 at 11:39 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Ow!  What did I do?! Besides feed the troll, that is. 😏

Yup. Bad Camoo!

But, but!  It’s there!


I wanna poke it.

OMG is this thread still going on?

Someone kill it before it lays eggs!

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(April 7, 2018 at 11:35 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 7, 2018 at 11:25 am)Little Rik Wrote: In all my honesty I gave you a friendly hand without knowing that you as a poison snake would pull it in trying to drag me down the cliff.

LOL.  I love this version of me!  It’s just so...badass.

LOL he said "snake". 


*giggles*

(April 7, 2018 at 11:58 am)Joods Wrote: OMG  is this thread still going on?

Someone kill it before it lays eggs!

Too late, lol.  Sick Ricky spread his nasty seed everywhere and then vanished.  I guess the troll didn’t like getting trolled back.  They never do...🤔

Quote:In all my honesty I gave you a friendly hand without knowing that you as a poison snake would pull it in trying to drag me down the cliff.

You have that backwards Rik she asked you a question . You coiled up . And she decked you before you struck .

The peener snake is deep in his hidey hole, at present. Give it a day or two. I'm sure he'll come back out to shout stupid shit at our faces again.

(April 7, 2018 at 10:17 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(April 6, 2018 at 12:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That you are ignorant of possible alternatives only demonstrates that you're ignorant.  Your ignorant incredulity is dismissed for the worthless crap it is.

"They found that when these plants are attacked by tobacco hornworm caterpillars, Manduca sexta, the caterpillars' saliva causes a chemical change in the GLV compounds the plants had produced. These modified compounds then attract predatory "true bugs," Geocoris, which prey on hornworm eggs and young larvae." (Science)

No consciousness needed in the loop.

Wrong once again yog.




Atheism and materialism go hand in hand but atheists forget that the matter like everything else in this universe is made of vibrations.

Yeah, the phrase "universe is made of vibrations" can mean any number of things, so until you specify exactly what you mean by this, I have no reason to believe your implied claim here, because it has no definite meaning. Words without definite meaning are what we call 'nonsense'.

(April 7, 2018 at 10:17 am)Little Rik Wrote: http://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/conte...ration.pdf

Yeah, this is nothing more than a puree of pseudoscientific drivel. Equivocating one moment, making unsound inferences the next, it's all over the map. You need to be specific about what you're claiming or fuck off.

(April 7, 2018 at 10:17 am)Little Rik Wrote: Vibrations are alive with a degree that vary from matter to the most alive entity in the universe.
Being alive clearly means that consciousness is there so all your BS that chemical reactions cause things to happen is just a load of steaming dung.  

Yeah, I have no fucking idea what you mean when you say that "Vibrations are alive" here. Until you can supply some definite, specific meaning to your words here, it's just meaningless crap. Nothing follows logically from meaningless crap. I suspect that you're back in the territory of your earlier claim that the universe is a mental projection of God. You backed off on that claim pretty fast once evidence was demanded. Chemical reactions are well understood material phenomenon. "Vibrations" are not. Define your terms or the only steaming pile of dung here is your vapid rhetoric.

In the meantime, nothing you've presented challenges the example of what ordinary people refer to when they talk of "chemicals" as playing the explanatory role that what you claimed was necessarily filled by what you referred to as "consciousness." If you're just playing a game of rotating definitions here, then your claims are nothing but meaningless equivocations. As I recall, the whole business of plants experiencing pain was brought up to support your idea that everything is conscious. So it seems you've argued full circle here, using the assumption that everything is conscious as evidence in support of the claim that everything is conscious. That's nothing more than begging the question. That's simply not how this works. Plants were pointed to as an example of something that is not conscious. You can't simply assume what you have set out to prove and use that as support for your claim.

(April 7, 2018 at 5:53 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(April 7, 2018 at 10:17 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong once again yog.




Atheism and materialism go hand in hand but atheists forget that the matter like everything else in this universe is made of vibrations.

Yeah, the phrase "universe is made of vibrations" can mean any number of things, so until you specify exactly what you mean by this, I have no reason to believe your implied claim here, because it has no definite meaning.  Words without definite meaning are what we call 'nonsense'.

(April 7, 2018 at 10:17 am)Little Rik Wrote: http://www.esalq.usp.br/lepse/imgs/conte...ration.pdf

Yeah, this is nothing more than a puree of pseudoscientific drivel.  Equivocating one moment, making unsound inferences the next, it's all over the map.  You need to be specific about what you're claiming or fuck off.

(April 7, 2018 at 10:17 am)Little Rik Wrote: Vibrations are alive with a degree that vary from matter to the most alive entity in the universe.
Being alive clearly means that consciousness is there so all your BS that chemical reactions cause things to happen is just a load of steaming dung.  

Yeah, I have no fucking idea what you mean when you say that "Vibrations are alive" here.  Until you can supply some definite, specific meaning to your words here, it's just meaningless crap.  Nothing follows logically from meaningless crap.  I suspect that you're back in the territory of your earlier claim that the universe is a mental projection of God.  You backed off on that claim pretty fast once evidence was demanded.  Chemical reactions are well understood material phenomenon.  "Vibrations" are not.  Define your terms or the only steaming pile of dung here is your vapid rhetoric.

In the meantime, nothing you've presented challenges the example of what ordinary people refer to when they talk of "chemicals" as playing the explanatory role that what you claimed was necessarily filled by what you referred to as "consciousness."  If you're just playing a game of rotating definitions here, then your claims are nothing but meaningless equivocations.  As I recall, the whole business of plants experiencing pain was brought up to support your idea that everything is conscious.  So it seems you've argued full circle here, using the assumption that everything is conscious as evidence in support of the claim that everything is conscious.  That's nothing more than begging the question.  That's simply not how this works.  Plants were pointed to as an example of something that is not conscious.  You can't simply assume what you have set out to prove and use that as support for your claim.

His argument sounds like a huge composition fallacy

(March 29, 2018 at 12:46 am)robvalue Wrote: Indeed. He brings us Karma claims, then when we point out that those claims apply to him to, he starts saying they don't, and we (Karma!?) are being hypocrites.

Or maybe Karma lets you do anything you want after someone called your mum a whore. But according to his own dogma, he must deserve that happening to him, so why's he complaining? Oh yeah, he doesn't believe his own shit again. If he can't even believe it, how can he expect us to?

He hasn't addressed either of these points as far as I'm aware, and I've counted another -20,000 karma points from him insulting everyone.