Regardless, all that this proves is that regimes like Stalinism which hold people responsible for thought crimes are immoral. Seeing that Christianity is just such a regime, all you are saying Huggy is that you support an unethical ideology.

Also, while atheistic religions may exist, atheism itself isn’t a religion. This is a classic is-a categorical error that theists always (intentionally) make. Atheism itself is merely the answer to the god question, and how strongly one feels about that answer (the gnostic/agnostic axis). There’s no rites, rituals, hierarchy, doctrine, etc. present within atheism. Any such things are layered on top of it.

Notice how unrefuted the Trudeau cartoon remains at this point in thread ?

(April 23, 2018 at 10:54 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Notice how unrefuted the Trudeau cartoon remains at this point in thread ?

Hard to refute the truth.

Such pliable and flexible dogma. Truly amazing.

I never realized the imprimatur of approval for literally ANYTHING could be granted, en masse, by the God Squad so fast, and for conduct that has been frowned upon for centuries.


Kinda make me wonder what we need Atheist Forums for, the Christers are dismantling/neutering/defanging their faith faster than we ever could on our own.

(April 22, 2018 at 4:55 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(April 22, 2018 at 2:47 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If males could get pregnant, abortion would already be a sacrament.

Boru

Yeah, and if men got breast cancer there would already be a cure.

Actually, men can get breast cancer.

(April 23, 2018 at 10:54 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Notice how unrefuted the Trudeau cartoon remains at this point in thread ?

Especially hard to refute since the religious folks are still moving further into their error. I suppose if they screeched to a halt and then started to backtrack towards Jesus again it might make it a little easier to find fault with the cartoon.

As it is, Trump's signature turns up on a check to an abortion clinic for 'services rendered' and LOL, the Christer folks are going to jump in ALL THE WAY and make abortion a sacrament of the faith.

Wonder if there are any old fashioned folks in the rear pews just having a total conniption fit about all the changes in Holy Strictures they've seen? I'd ask if any are changing churches, but it wouldn't matter, looks like all the churchy churches love Trump and his unrepentant abominable attitude. No point in changing churches if they all are corrupt.

(April 23, 2018 at 10:44 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Here’s the thing: even positive/gnostic atheism in and of itself has no doctrine.  There’s no inherent demand or order in any flavor of atheism to eliminate religious practice altogether.  No, such acts committed by a state are simply a way to oppress, homogenize, and control people.  It’s really no different than our history of forcing slaves or indigenous peoples to practice Christianity rather than their own beliefs.

Atheism has no mandate.

*emphasis mine*

Then according to that logic 'theism" in and of itself has no doctrine.

Can you articulate what theism has mandated?

I have shown that atheist ideologies has been used to oppress people the same as theist ideologies, the difference being that the atheists were far more efficient and unscrupulous with their killing.

God exists.

Of course if He did, He might be a little frustrated with His followers now for giving Trudeau so much material, and He might be zorching some churchy leaders with yaws and goiters.

And then there'd be some proof to trot out to the atheists . . .