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Argument from contingency
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Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm
What do people here think of the argument from contingency? Here is a summary: http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/the...ntingency/
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:18 pm
(April 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm)mcc1789 Wrote: What do people here think of the argument from contingency? Here is a summary: http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/the...ntingency/

Do a little research in these forums and you'll find far more accurate summaries.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:19 pm (This post was last modified: April 24, 2018 at 10:19 pm by Paraselene.)
Quote:The Argument from Contingency
(1) Everything that exists contingently has a reason for its existence.
(2) The universe exists contingently.
Therefore:
(3) The universe has a reason for its existence.
(4) If the universe has a reason for its existence then that reason is God.
Therefore:
(5) God exists.

The argument fails because there's no evidence that the reason is God.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:21 pm
(April 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm)mcc1789 Wrote: What do people here think of the argument from contingency? Here is a summary: http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/the...ntingency/

It sucks.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:29 pm (This post was last modified: April 24, 2018 at 10:30 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(April 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm)mcc1789 Wrote: What do people here think of the argument from contingency? Here is a summary: http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/the...ntingency/

Quote:(1) Everything that exists contingently has a reason for its existence.
I accept this premise.

Quote:(2) The universe exists contingently.

It depends what you mean by universe. But for sake of argument, I'll accept it.

Quote:Therefore:
(3) The universe has a reason for its existence.

I accept this.

Quote:(4) If the universe has a reason for its existence then that reason is God.

Does not follow and is yet to be demonstrated. Conclusion rejected.

Quote:Therefore:
(5) God exists.

Does not follow from (4) because (4) was rejected.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:30 pm
(April 24, 2018 at 10:18 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(April 24, 2018 at 10:16 pm)mcc1789 Wrote: What do people here think of the argument from contingency? Here is a summary: http://www.philosophyofreligion.info/the...ntingency/

Do a little research in these forums and you'll find far more accurate summaries.

For example:

(April 24, 2018 at 10:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It sucks.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:39 pm (This post was last modified: April 24, 2018 at 10:39 pm by mcc1789.)
Agreed, the conclusion didn't follow.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:42 pm (This post was last modified: April 24, 2018 at 10:43 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
I mean, it's hilarious really... because the God part is the part they are supposed to be proving and they just start from multiple non-controversial premises and then insert God into the conclusions at the end lol.

It's better comedy than argumentation.
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:44 pm
I don't even get the term reason for its existence  in terms of the universe . Huh
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RE: Argument from contingency
April 24, 2018 at 10:46 pm
(April 24, 2018 at 10:30 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(April 24, 2018 at 10:18 pm)Succubus Wrote: Do a little research in these forums and you'll find far more accurate summaries.

For example:

(April 24, 2018 at 10:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: It sucks.

I have a lot more to say about this argument; I’m just too drunk to articulate it at the moment. ?
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