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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:29 am
(May 4, 2018 at 6:58 am)Mathilda Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 6:50 am)CDF47 Wrote: The information is 4-digit digital information A, C, T, & G nucleotide bases.
No. It's humans labelling it A, C, T & G. These are actually distinct chemical structures. Again, your argument boils down to pointing at something, saying it's information and therefore because it's information that must mean that there is a god.
(May 4, 2018 at 6:50 am)CDF47 Wrote: That's a living system containing DNA.
So?
Yes, those are chemicals named by humans, I know that. So are 0s and 1s in binary digital code. This is still digital code regardless of the letter types assigned. It is genetic information which ultimately encodes for proteins.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:31 am
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You;re about to run your ship into the rocks..if you separate information from human minds, now. Above you imply that it's information regardless of human minds or observation. How is that sup[posed to fit with the implication you're trying to make? If it can be information in some sense not relevant to our mind..then why is there a requirement of mind in the information of dna?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:31 am
(May 4, 2018 at 6:59 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 6:54 am)izheruk Wrote: And he continues to repeat IDiot dogma
The fun part is finding which site he's using and getting two answers ahead.
OP, this rock has all kinds of interesting information:
![[Image: allenhillsmeteorite.jpg]](https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2010/04/allenhillsmeteorite.jpg)
That would be Shannon Information which has no function. DNA is specified and complex information or Complex Specified Information (CSI).
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:38 am
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:39 am
I notice you dodged the tree rings. Doesn't matter, you're working with a broken model.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:43 am
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Quote:Yes, those are chemicals named by humans, I know that. So are 0s and 1s in binary digital code. This is still digital code regardless of the letter types assigned. It is genetic information which ultimately encodes for proteins.
No it's not
https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2010/04...es-of.html
http://recursed.blogspot.ca/2009/10/step...heory.html
http://recursed.blogspot.ca/search/label...en%20Meyer
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:50 am
(May 4, 2018 at 8:31 am)CDF47 Wrote: That would be Shannon Information which has no function. DNA is specified and complex information or Complex Specified Information (CSI).
What is "Complex Specified Information" and what function does it have?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:58 am
(May 4, 2018 at 7:06 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 7:05 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Oh yeah he's parroting talking points from a site . His response are cookie cutter in the extreme.
You mean he's not ready to cope with the idea that Genesis may havev happened on a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLANET?
That would just push the problem back one step further. That intelligence would still need a designer. The entire universe is designed. The universe, in the beginning, had infinite curvature which means it had no space. How much matter can no space hold? Exactly, zero. Additionally, the universe is fine-tuned to un-imaginable degrees. One independent constant out of about 30 of them alone has a 1:10^120 probability. There have only been 10^16 seconds since the Big Bang and there are 10^80 atoms in the known universe to give an idea of scale.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 8:59 am
(May 4, 2018 at 3:55 am)Little lunch Wrote: I can't wait to dissect the creator to prove that he was also created by another creator.
Valkyrie can supply the scalpels and I'll type the report. Let's do this!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 9:03 am
(May 4, 2018 at 7:31 am)chimp3 Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 2:48 am)CDF47 Wrote: DNA has a property that cannot be explained by natural processes. Locked securely inside the double helix structure of DNA is a wealth of information in the form of precisely sequenced chemicals that scientists represent with the letters A, C, T, and G. In a written language information is communicated by a precise arrangement of letters. In the same way, the instruction necessary to assemble amino acids into proteins are conveyed by the sequences of chemicals arranged along the spine of the DNA. This chemical code has been called the “Language of Life” and it is the most densely packed and elaborately detailed assembly of information in the known universe. Black holes are a far more densely packed assemblage of information.
That would be Shannon Information.
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