(May 7, 2018 at 11:03 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: What next? 747 in a junkyard?

That would be jumbo mumbo instead of mumbo jumbo.

(May 7, 2018 at 7:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Everything you just said is a lie. DNA is capable of storing information, it is not information in itself. How does it achieve this? 

I didn't say it was information.  I said information is in DNA, as in, stored in.  Read the OP and all my other posts and you would know I knew that fact.

You actually did say that. Want me to go back and embarrass you by quoting your very own words? I will if you really wish to be exposed as a moron. Besides, I don't need to because you repeated the error in this very post.

(May 7, 2018 at 11:08 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 7:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I didn't say it was information.  I said information is in DNA, as in, stored in.  Read the OP and all my other posts and you would know I knew that fact.

You actually did say that. Want me to go back and embarrass you by quoting your very own words? I will if you really wish to be exposed as a moron. Besides, I don't need to because you repeated the error in this very post.

If a boulder rolls down the dirt slope, the track in dirt slope’s now store extensive and accurate information about the shape, size and weight of the rock.  Therefore god.

(May 7, 2018 at 11:11 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 11:08 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You actually did say that. Want me to go back and embarrass you by quoting your very own words? I will if you really wish to be exposed as a moron. Besides, I don't need to because you repeated the error in this very post.

If a boulder rolls down the dirt slope, the track in dirt slope’s now store extensive and accurate information about the shape, size and weight of the rock.  Therefore god.

I get that mad argument. But lets us not let CFB off the hook. The universe was designed for something but clearly not us. I want to know what exactly the universe was designed for.

I think this all comes to one thing...
As AronRa said in a lecture.
The only way for him to prove evolution is real is to take this person in a time machine back in time to show him a live intermediate species.
Then Aron said and as soon as that particular fish dies of old age, the theist will say "I win". lol

The OP has convinced himself that nothing in nature should seem designed.
That is so wrong it's ridiculous. Every atom in the universe is a testament to nature's ultimate design.
Hey OP, does your God have a patent on anything that YOU deem as designed?

I can just see the OP next become a physicist to tell us how the atom had to be designed by god ... It just doesn't end...
Some people are too ignorant to know they're ignorant.

Somebody just burn this thread with a flamethrower...

Cthulhu maybe.

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(May 7, 2018 at 6:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 3:31 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Was there even the remotest possibility a creationist could have said otherwise in the age of science?

No.

But I still live in the naieve hope of envountering an honest creationist...

No such exists.

(May 7, 2018 at 6:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: But I still live in the naieve hope of envountering an honest creationist...

bumpy train?

(May 8, 2018 at 12:40 am)ignoramus Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 6:37 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: But I still live in the naieve hope of envountering an honest creationist...

bumpy train?

Bumpy? The tracks are not even parallel.

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(May 7, 2018 at 6:37 pm)Joods Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 3:55 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Everything you just said is a lie. DNA is capable of storing information, it is not information in itself. How does it achieve this? Chemistry. Of the four components of DNA (A,C,G,T),  one is called Guanine (the G one, obviously). Know what Guanine is? Bird shit. That's right, your nutty gawd made you 25% bird shit. Death is not "part of the design" it is a consequence of entropy. DNA is not a digital code as you would know if you understood digital codes. Chemically, DNA is a rather simple compuond with some interesting properties. It is not a blueprint in any way. That was an attempt by a scientist to dumb it down to the level of people like you. He obviously failed to dumb it down sufficiently

Oh and you asked yesterday was anyone suitably qualified in math, science, engineering, and statistics. Well, it so happens that I am. I don't think you are talking a load of bollocks, I know you are talking a load of bollocks.

Designed for what? Certainly not us. The vast majority of the universe will kill us, the vast majority of this planet will kill us. It certainly was not designed for us, so what was it designed for?

You people need to update this man's rep. If just for this post alone.

LOL, I just play it the way it lays...

(May 7, 2018 at 10:14 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 6:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Specified and complex highly sophisticated digital code is in DNA.  It is designed.  If I saw Mount Rushmore I would know it too was designed.  We infer designed based on both specificity and complexity.

How do you infer design based on specificity and complexity?  Aren't general and simple things also designed? You told us that DNA and rocks are both designed.

The complexity and specificity allow us to infer design.  When I look at a car or a building, I infer design based on it's specified complexity.  Don't twist my worst like child's play antagonistic debating.  I said the entire universe is designed which is why even a dumb rock requires design here; however, the proof of design is in the complex and specific examples like DNA.

(May 8, 2018 at 2:25 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 7, 2018 at 10:14 pm)Khemikal Wrote: How do you infer design based on specificity and complexity?  Aren't general and simple things also designed? You told us that DNA and rocks are both designed.

The complexity and specificity allow us to infer design. 

Bollocks. It is cockwombles like the religious that invent the borked idea that you MUST defend to the death the rights of the unborn yet promptly abandon them once born.

(May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: When I look at a car or a building, I infer design based on it's specified complexity.

No you don't. You make that call based on comparison.  

(May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Don't twist my worst like child's play antagonistic debating. 

Nobody has to "twist" your words. Your words are stupid straight out of the box.

(May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I said the entire universe is designed

Yes. You did. But you did not say what it was designed for. It was clearly was not designed for us, since the vast majority of it will kill us, so what was it designed for?

(May 7, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote: which is why even a dumb rock requires design here; however, the proof of design is in the complex and specific examples like DNA.

Even dumb rocks will kill us at a whim. How is this designed for us? It clearly is not remotely designed for us. Who or what is the universe designed for?