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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 7:54 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 7:48 pm)Hammy Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 7:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote: My point was proven in post number 1.
No it wasn't.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
The evidence I provided should be defined as proof that a Designer and Creator exist. If you want to discuss theology we should create a separate thread in the Religion forum.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 7:57 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 7:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 7:48 pm)Hammy Wrote: No it wasn't.
"What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
The evidence I provided should be defined as proof.
Only in the way the a vague inage in the shape of a man's face appearing on toast is "proof".
And that's only by those willing to accept claims or are going to believe anyway.
The rest of us have a higher standard for evidence, let alone proof.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 7:59 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 7:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 7:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The evidence I provided should be defined as proof.
Only in the way the a vague inage in the shape of a man's face appearing on toast is "proof".
And that's only by those willing to accept claims or are going to believe anyway.
The rest of us have a higher standard for evidence, let alone proof.
You wouldn't know evidence or proof if it smacked you directly in the face. I would not be proud of that or refer to it as high standards.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:03 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 7:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The evidence I provided should be defined as proof that a Designer and Creator exist. If you want to discuss theology we should create a separate thread in the Religion forum.
It's not proof or evidence of any such thing. You are using a very old and outdated argument that has already been debunked repeatedly time and time again.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:04 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 8:03 pm)Hammy Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 7:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The evidence I provided should be defined as proof that a Designer and Creator exist. If you want to discuss theology we should create a separate thread in the Religion forum.
It's not proof or evidence of any such thing. You are using a very old and outdated argument that has already been debunked repeatedly time and time again.
DNA containing information is a fact that can never be debunked.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:04 pm
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(May 10, 2018 at 7:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 10, 2018 at 7:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote: K, then you're going to have to explain why you have a shitty little wire and canvass biplane inside you while the 747 doesn't.
I'll wait.
Not sure but here are some interesting facts about the design of the human body plan: The average human head has about 100,000 hairs. Nerve impulses to and from the brain travel as fast as 170 miles per hour. An adult human body contains approximately 100 trillion cells. There are nearly 46 miles of nerves in an adult's body.
According to Neurogenetics at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center, the human body has 95 to 100 billion neurons or nerve cells. The brain alone has at least 85 billion of these cells, although estimates go as high as 1 trillion.
The total length of your circulatory system stretches an amazing 60,000 miles. That is more than twice the distance around the Earth. The central nervous system is connected to every part of the body by 43 pairs of nerves. Twelve pairs go to and from the brain, with 31 pairs going from the spinal cord. Blah blah blah "design". We;'re past that. I;m not asking you to establish that we -are- designed...simply asking you, why you think, we're more like one designed thing than another.
I suggest you consume the time I allow for. It can only help. Why..in your estimation..are we more like a 747 than a rock?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:07 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 8:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 7:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
Not sure but here are some interesting facts about the design of the human body plan: The average human head has about 100,000 hairs. Nerve impulses to and from the brain travel as fast as 170 miles per hour. An adult human body contains approximately 100 trillion cells. There are nearly 46 miles of nerves in an adult's body.
According to Neurogenetics at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center, the human body has 95 to 100 billion neurons or nerve cells. The brain alone has at least 85 billion of these cells, although estimates go as high as 1 trillion.
The total length of your circulatory system stretches an amazing 60,000 miles. That is more than twice the distance around the Earth. The central nervous system is connected to every part of the body by 43 pairs of nerves. Twelve pairs go to and from the brain, with 31 pairs going from the spinal cord. Blah blah blah "design". We;'re past that. I;m not asking you to establish that we -are- designed...simply asking you, why you think, we're more like one designed thing than another.
I suggest you consume the time I allow for. It can only help.
God's will but this steps into theology which belongs in the Religious forum. I agree ID does have religious implications though.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:09 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 8:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 8:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Blah blah blah "design". We;'re past that. I;m not asking you to establish that we -are- designed...simply asking you, why you think, we're more like one designed thing than another.
I suggest you consume the time I allow for. It can only help.
God's will but this steps into theology which belongs in the Religious forum. I agree ID does have religious implications though.
The intelligence part is your mistake. No intelligence is required from the designer. The designer is natural selection.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:10 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 8:09 pm)Hammy Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 8:07 pm)CDF47 Wrote: God's will but this steps into theology which belongs in the Religious forum. I agree ID does have religious implications though.
The intelligence part is your mistake. No intelligence is required from the designer. The designer is natural selection.
Nothing natural can design and create something as sophisticated as DNA or animal bodies or human bodies,...
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 10, 2018 at 8:11 pm
(May 10, 2018 at 8:10 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 10, 2018 at 8:09 pm)Hammy Wrote: The intelligence part is your mistake. No intelligence is required from the designer. The designer is natural selection.
Nothing natural can design and create something as sophisticated as DNA or animal bodies or human bodies,...
Your personal incredulity is not an argument.
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