(May 12, 2018 at 7:23 pm)Joods Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

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So now you want me banned for just arguing the truth with you all and putting up with all the crap thrown my way.  I obeyed every rule of the site the best I could.

Sorry but you've walked a fine line when it comes to the rules. 


There's this from the Prime Directive that constitutes flaming: 

Quote:...overly negative generalizations of entire groups of people (unless strongly supported by evidence),

that you've done numerous times to atheists here. You have insulted us and our intelligence on a generalized scale. 

There's also this: 

Quote: Posts which are comprised of outrageous misrepresentations of events within the public record will be considered as trolling.

You have outrageously misrepresented DNA and its surrounding events, which is public record, through the duration of this entire thread. Even when evidence has been provided to you over and over showing you that you are, and continue to be wrong. 

Also - on more than one occasion, you have posted content from other sites here without proper citations. In other words - you may have written them elsewhere, but you failed miserably to state the forum or site that you copied your own info from, thus trying to make it look like you were genuinely responding to another post here. Whether or not it's your work, failing to cite it is still a form of plagiarism. 

So why don't you just do us all a favor and quit while your ahead.

After all I put up with in here that is a joke.  I presented facts throughout this thread and read every post and responded to tons of them to the best of my ability.  I guess if I get banned, so be it.

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(May 12, 2018 at 7:23 pm)*Deidre* Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Thanks for the feedback.  The Bible does not ask for blind faith.  It asks to look at the creation for signs of the Creator.  This is what I do which helps with my faith.  I still have faith, it is just not a blind faith.

So do you believe that DNA is objective proof of a Creator?

Yes, because of the information bearing properties of DNA and the operation of the molecular machinery, I believe it is objective proof of a Creator.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:27 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:23 pm)Joods Wrote: Sorry but you've walked a fine line when it comes to the rules. 


There's this from the Prime Directive that constitutes flaming: 

that you've done numerous times to atheists here. You have insulted us and our intelligence on a generalized scale. 

There's also this: 

You have outrageously misrepresented DNA and its surrounding events, which is public record, through the duration of this entire thread. Even when evidence has been provided to you over and over showing you that you are, and continue to be wrong. 

Also - on more than one occasion, you have posted content from other sites here without proper citations. In other words - you may have written them elsewhere, but you failed miserably to state the forum or site that you copied your own info from, thus trying to make it look like you were genuinely responding to another post here. Whether or not it's your work, failing to cite it is still a form of plagiarism. 

So why don't you just do us all a favor and quit while your ahead.

After all I put up with in here that is a joke.  I presented facts throughout this thread and read every post and responded to tons of them to the best of my ability.  I guess if I get banned, so be it.

For the thousandth time - you opinions don't equate with facts. If you think that you've had to put up with people telling you the truth while dismissing your opinions, is a problem, then there's a door you can go through. 

Throwing up bible quotes doesn't make them factual either. It makes you look weak because you don't have any better arguments to make. 

Insulting atheists as a group in general, violates the Prime directive. 

Copying your crap from other websites (which has already been pointed out) without citing their sources, is a violation of plagiarism. 

But by all means, do keep going.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:33 pm)Joods Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:27 pm)CDF47 Wrote: After all I put up with in here that is a joke.  I presented facts throughout this thread and read every post and responded to tons of them to the best of my ability.  I guess if I get banned, so be it.

For the thousandth time - you opinions don't equate with facts. If you think that you've had to put up with people telling you the truth while dismissing your opinions, is a problem, then there's a door you can go through. 

Throwing up bible quotes doesn't make them factual either. It makes you look weak because you don't have any better arguments to make. 

Insulting atheists as a group in general, violates the Prime directive. 

Copying your crap from other websites (which has already been pointed out) without citing their sources, is a violation of plagiarism. 

But by all means, do keep going.

I think I'll stick around.  I like discussing the topic.  I only put up Bible quotes where they applied since it came up early that I was a Christian.

I was the one insulted numerous times.  This is the pot calling the kettle black.

It was a copy of my own post from 2 years ago from another forum.  I guess I plagiarized myself.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:10 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: As a believer, I can agree with your take on it, OP. But when I wasn’t a believer, it wouldn’t point to a Creator. (automatically)  My belief doesn’t hinge on science, lest it wouldn’t be called faith.

That’s just my opinion.

Thanks for the feedback.  The Bible does not ask for blind faith.  It asks to look at the creation for signs of the Creator.  This is what I do which helps with my faith.  I still have faith, it is just not a blind faith.

Faith is simply an excuse given to believe anything absent a reason. I take it as a matter of faith that the IPU exists and has my best welfare at heart. Prove me wrong. 

There is simply NO position one cannot take as a matter of faith. I have faith that the FSM boiled for our sins.
Prove that wrong.

Ramen.

Faith is the simplistic abdication of reason and the ultimate expression of intellectual laziness.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:40 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:33 pm)Joods Wrote: For the thousandth time - you opinions don't equate with facts. If you think that you've had to put up with people telling you the truth while dismissing your opinions, is a problem, then there's a door you can go through. 

Throwing up bible quotes doesn't make them factual either. It makes you look weak because you don't have any better arguments to make. 

Insulting atheists as a group in general, violates the Prime directive. 

Copying your crap from other websites (which has already been pointed out) without citing their sources, is a violation of plagiarism. 

But by all means, do keep going.

I think I'll stick around.  I like discussing the topic.  I only put up Bible quotes where they applied since it came up early that I was a Christian.

I was the one insulted numerous times.  This is the pot calling the kettle black.

It was a copy of my own post from 2 years ago from another forum.  I guess I plagiarized myself.

You don't make up an entire group of people. That's the difference. You walked right into the shit you got. AND you dished it back so quit whining about it.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:49 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Thanks for the feedback.  The Bible does not ask for blind faith.  It asks to look at the creation for signs of the Creator.  This is what I do which helps with my faith.  I still have faith, it is just not a blind faith.

Faith is simply an excuse given to believe anything absent a reason. I take it as a matter of faith that the IPU exists and has my best welfare at heart. Prove me wrong. 

There is simply NO position one cannot take as a matter of faith. I have faith that the FSM boiled for our sins.
Prove that wrong.

Ramen.

Faith is the simplistic abdication of reason and the ultimate expression of intellectual laziness.

Yet, Christians are not intellectually lazy in general.  Some of the best scientists in history were believers, including one of the best of all time, Isaac Newton.  Faith is a gift from God.  There is plenty of intellectual study which can be had regarding Christianity from archaeology, to history, to science, to mathematics,......

That's right. When all arguments fail.... Push your Christian agenda.

Push that fucking bullshit elsewhere. You have NO proof that your god, let along ANY god even exists.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:51 pm)Joods Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:40 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I think I'll stick around.  I like discussing the topic.  I only put up Bible quotes where they applied since it came up early that I was a Christian.

I was the one insulted numerous times.  This is the pot calling the kettle black.

It was a copy of my own post from 2 years ago from another forum.  I guess I plagiarized myself.

You don't make up an entire group of people. That's the difference. You walked right into the shit you got. AND you dished it back so quit whining about it.

I very slightly dished it back out.  I held back quite a bit considering the insults I had to deal with.  I understand ridicule is a manipulative debate tactic from a losing opponent but this was taken to an extreme in my opinion.  I walked in here with proof and it was ignored and attempts to refute it were made despite the clear proof with a code embedded in DNA.

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(May 12, 2018 at 7:57 pm)Joods Wrote: That's right. When all arguments fail.... Push your Christian agenda.

Push that fucking bullshit elsewhere. You have NO proof that your god, let along ANY god even exists.

DNA proves a Creator exists.

(May 12, 2018 at 7:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:49 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Faith is simply an excuse given to believe anything absent a reason. I take it as a matter of faith that the IPU exists and has my best welfare at heart. Prove me wrong. 

There is simply NO position one cannot take as a matter of faith. I have faith that the FSM boiled for our sins.
Prove that wrong.

Ramen.

Faith is the simplistic abdication of reason and the ultimate expression of intellectual laziness.

Yet, Christians are not intellectually lazy in general.  Some of the best scientists in history were believers, including one of the best of all time, Isaac Newton.  Faith is a gift from God.  There is plenty of intellectual study which can be had regarding Christianity from archaeology, to history, to science, to mathematics,......

I made no such suggestion.

ETA: to be clear newton believed in alchemy. That is stupid, but in no way invalidates his work on gravity or calculus. This is one of the strengths of science. Toss the baloney and retain the useful. Same happened with Einstein.
God does not play dice? Turns out he does in spades.

(May 12, 2018 at 8:12 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 12, 2018 at 7:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Yet, Christians are not intellectually lazy in general.  Some of the best scientists in history were believers, including one of the best of all time, Isaac Newton.  Faith is a gift from God.  There is plenty of intellectual study which can be had regarding Christianity from archaeology, to history, to science, to mathematics,......

I made no such suggestion.

Alright, fair enough.