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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:54 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 3:53 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: CDF47 Wrote:Where is your proof that the sophistication in the cell comes from a blind undirected process. You can't even begin to start explaining that lie. All you can say is it is chemistry. No explanation. You can't explain the functional information in DNA that performs coding of systems. You can't explain the filing system of DNA and its construct coming about naturally,............
Funny how you never respond to posts that bring up RNA world.
I respond to as much as I have time for. I have responded to a ton of posts in this thread and you know it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:55 pm
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CDF47 Wrote:I've studied more science than you think. Do you realize how much science is involved in mechanical engineering studies and application?
Not as much as is needed to create a bacterial genome from scratch, I bet. And that has been done. By people who think DNA was not consciously designed.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:56 pm
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(May 14, 2018 at 3:51 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: CDF47 Wrote:I always try to be honest. It is the atheist who have only their own standard of morals per individual. That leads to things like what happened in Nazi Germany.
Where a Roman Catholic in good standing convinced a nation composed mostly of Lutherans and Catholics to exterminate their Jews?
Well, remember that the whole persecution of the Jews came about because of Christianity. The Jews did, after all, nail up their saviour.
But the persecution always confuses me. Jesus was there, supposedly, to be sacrificed. The Jews simply did what god wanted them to do.
You'd think Christians would be applauding them for doing their part.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:57 pm
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(May 14, 2018 at 3:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 3:50 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: And now the equivocation starts.
If your god interacts with the real world then it must be detectable.
If your god's interaction is not detectable, then it didn't happen at all.
Pick one.
God interacts with the world and His detection is by His will and His will only. He is definitely a mysterious God.
That is baloney and I think you know it.
If your god interacts with the world then it is detectable and measurable.
Now you are claiming that your god interacts with the world but leaves no evidence whatever.
Do you not realise what a stupid claim that is?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:58 pm
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CDF47 Wrote:They were into the occult and into survival of the fittest trying to build an improved world by killing those that were sick or had some kind of conditions. That is what I am referring to.
Does someone who believes in the occult sound like an atheist to you?
They got that from eugenics movement, also popular in America and only requiring a passing familiarity with the ideas of animal husbandry; not Darwin. They burned Darwin's books in Berlin.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:59 pm
And for everyone else, we are back to the tried and trusted "mysterious ways" crapfest.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 3:59 pm
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(May 14, 2018 at 3:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 3:51 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Where a Roman Catholic in good standing convinced a nation composed mostly of Lutherans and Catholics to exterminate their Jews?
Well, remember that the whole persecution of the Jews came about because of Christianity. The Jews did, after all, nail up their saviour.
But the oersecution always confuses me. Jesus was there, supposedly, to be sacrificed. The Jews simply did what god wanted them to do.
You'd think Christians would be applauding them for doing their part.
Christians are not supposed to hate Jews. Even Jesus on the cross asked His Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. He was referring to the Jews that put Him up there and the Romans doing their civil duty of execution.
(May 14, 2018 at 3:57 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 3:52 pm)CDF47 Wrote: God interacts with the world and His detection is by His will and His will only. He is definitely a mysterious God.
That is baloney and I think you know it.
If your god interacts with the world then it is detectable and measurable.
Now you are claiming that your god interacts with the world but leaves no evidence whatever.
Do you not realise what a stupid claim that is?
I said His detection is in the cell and the construct of the super-symmetrical universe. See previous post. He is detectable as He wants to be. He has been detectable to eye witnesses in the past. Not saying every eye witness is right but some are. I believe the Bible is His inspired word.
(May 14, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: CDF47 Wrote:They were into the occult and into survival of the fittest trying to build an improved world by killing those that were sick or had some kind of conditions. That is what I am referring to.
Does someone who believes in the occult sound like an atheist to you?
They got that from eugenics movement, also popular in America and only requiring a passing familiarity with the ideas of animal husbandry; not Darwin. They burned Darwin's books in Berlin.
I never said Hitler was an atheist. They were big into theosophy I know that. They drew ideas from Darwin was my point, like what the movie Expelled claims.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 4:05 pm
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They didn't, actually, so your "point" and Expelled was wrong regardless. Granted it;s easier to connect someone to nazis than it is to explain why or what about evolutionary biology is false.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 4:06 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 3:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 3:57 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That is baloney and I think you know it.
If your god interacts with the world then it is detectable and measurable.
Now you are claiming that your god interacts with the world but leaves no evidence whatever.
Do you not realise what a stupid claim that is?
I said His detection is in the cell and the construct of the super-symmetrical universe. See previous post. He is detectable as He wants to be. He has been detectable to eye witnesses in the past. Not saying every eye witness is right but some are. I believe the Bible is His inspired word. That is not the question asked. The cell has been around for billions of years. I asked you about today.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 14, 2018 at 4:08 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 3:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 14, 2018 at 3:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Well, remember that the whole persecution of the Jews came about because of Christianity. The Jews did, after all, nail up their saviour.
But the oersecution always confuses me. Jesus was there, supposedly, to be sacrificed. The Jews simply did what god wanted them to do.
You'd think Christians would be applauding them for doing their part.
Christians are not supposed to hate Jews. Even Jesus on the cross asked His Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. He was referring to the Jews that put Him up there and the Romans doing their civil duty of execution.
(May 14, 2018 at 3:57 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: That is baloney and I think you know it.
If your god interacts with the world then it is detectable and measurable.
Now you are claiming that your god interacts with the world but leaves no evidence whatever.
Do you not realise what a stupid claim that is?
I said His detection is in the cell and the construct of the super-symmetrical universe. See previous post. He is detectable as He wants to be. He has been detectable to eye witnesses in the past. Not saying every eye witness is right but some are. I believe the Bible is His inspired word.
(May 14, 2018 at 3:58 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Does someone who believes in the occult sound like an atheist to you?
They got that from eugenics movement, also popular in America and only requiring a passing familiarity with the ideas of animal husbandry; not Darwin. They burned Darwin's books in Berlin.
I never said Hitler was an atheist. They were big into theosophy I know that. They drew ideas from Darwin was my point, like what the movie Expelled claims.
Ha!
I was wondering, just yesterday, if "Expelled" would be brought up!
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