(May 16, 2018 at 9:32 am)CDF47 Wrote: I disagree.  Study apologetics and God and science and it is possible.

Oh i have it's nonsense to equate the two.

Quote:The creation account I believe fits the Day-Age Interpretation of Genesis based on Old Earth Creationism.  I believe science shows us the universe and living systems are designed and created by a super intelligence.  Based on looking at all the religions of the world I believe in the Christian God of the Bible.  OT and NT are the same Lord.  I believe the Lord can break the laws of physics at His will and create supernatural experiences because it is His creation.

So your god can do things and ignore science, then why do you pay science any tribute when you think it does you good, or helps your case ?  It's simply another rendering of 'goddidit'

Quote:The Bible, when taken into context, does not make Him look bad.

You mean the bible, when twisted to suit your needs ?
What context is hell to be taken in ? That we didn't do as we were told, that we deserve it.. sounds like a very abusive partner to me a sad drunk.

Quote:Because I have control over what I think, say, and do.  It is my free will choices I make.  That is what I believe.  We are not robots.

How do you know the choices you make are your own free will ?

(May 16, 2018 at 10:49 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 10:49 am)Mathilda Wrote: So she did partially design you, and the design wasn't entirely down to your god's decision.

According to Biblical Scripture, God forms us in the womb.  He is our Designer.  It is based on the genes of the parents though so I can see what you are saying.

So we have established that your god does not design everything in the universe, that humans design some things, but humans also create things which are not designed. Therefore not everything in the universe is designed.

We have also established that your mother's choice influenced how you turned out and that it was not entirely your god's choice (your mother has free will after all).

Does your god design some babies to have birth defects?

You can stop this right now, CDF. Use that god-given free will of yours and admit you’re trolling.

(May 16, 2018 at 10:52 am)possibletarian Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 9:32 am)CDF47 Wrote: I disagree.  Study apologetics and God and science and it is possible.

Oh i have it's nonsense to equate the two.

Quote:The creation account I believe fits the Day-Age Interpretation of Genesis based on Old Earth Creationism.  I believe science shows us the universe and living systems are designed and created by a super intelligence.  Based on looking at all the religions of the world I believe in the Christian God of the Bible.  OT and NT are the same Lord.  I believe the Lord can break the laws of physics at His will and create supernatural experiences because it is His creation.

So your god can do things and ignore science, then why do you pay science any tribute when you think it does you good, or helps your case ?  It's simply another rendering of 'goddidit'

Quote:The Bible, when taken into context, does not make Him look bad.

You mean the bible, when twisted to suit your needs ?
What context is hell to be taken in ? That we didn't do as we were told, that we deserve it.. sounds like a very abusive partner to me a sad drunk.

Quote:Because I have control over what I think, say, and do.  It is my free will choices I make.  That is what I believe.  We are not robots.

How do you know the choices you make are your own free will ?

I disagree.

It is rare in the Bible for a supernatural event.  90 percent of the Bible is natural occurrences and only about 10 percent is supernatural.  God allows us to have science to study His creation.

Hell might get destroyed.  There are verses in the Bible that refer to the destruction of the unrighteous and the destruction death and hell.  It's God's will and He is just.

Because I know they are my own free will.  Scripture and science supports that as well.

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(May 16, 2018 at 10:56 am)Mathilda Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 10:49 am)CDF47 Wrote: According to Biblical Scripture, God forms us in the womb.  He is our Designer.  It is based on the genes of the parents though so I can see what you are saying.

So we have established that your god does not design everything in the universe, that humans design some things, but humans also create things which are not designed. Therefore not everything in the universe is designed.

We have also established that your mother's choice influenced how you turned out and that it was not entirely your god's choice (your mother has free will after all).

Does your god design some babies to have birth defects?

True.

I believe finding your partner in life is part of God's plan (will) so He is involved with that.

Yes.

Why does your god design some babies to have birth defects?

(May 16, 2018 at 10:59 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: You can stop this right now, CDF.  Use that god-given free will of yours and admit you’re trolling.

I'd rather continue the conversation.  This topic is one of my favorites and I love discussing it with anyone; believers and un-believers.  I am not trolling, just conversing with the other posters on this site which is why I joined in the first place.

(May 16, 2018 at 10:49 am)CDF47 Wrote: [quote='LadyForCamus' pid='1757039' dateline='1526482092']
228 pages?  Really?

Quote:Yeah, the questions keep coming.

I have one.  What would Jebus do for a Klondike bar?

(May 16, 2018 at 11:03 am)Mathilda Wrote: Why does your god design some babies to have birth defects?

It all has to do with the fall of man and sin.  All the hardships and evil and imperfections.  We have to play the cards God deals us in life.  It is a temporary experience.

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(May 16, 2018 at 11:04 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 10:49 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 10:48 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: 228 pages?  Really?

Quote:Yeah, the questions keep coming.

I have one.  What would Jebus do for a Klondike bar?

Why do you mock the Son of God?

(May 16, 2018 at 11:03 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 10:59 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: You can stop this right now, CDF.  Use that god-given free will of yours and admit you’re trolling.

I'd rather continue the conversation.  This topic is one of my favorites and I love discussing it with anyone; believers and un-believers.  I am not trolling, just conversing with the other posters on this site which is why I joined in the first place.

Trollin’ for Christ is still trollin’.

(May 16, 2018 at 11:05 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 16, 2018 at 11:03 am)Mathilda Wrote: Why does your god design some babies to have birth defects?

It all has to do with the fall of man and sin.  All the hardships and evil and imperfections.  We have to play the cards God deals us in life.  It is a temporary experience.

But why does your god design some babies to have birth defects?