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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 1:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: God hates evil and I hate evil.  That is the only hatred God has.  I try to make that my only hatred as well but I struggle in my heart because I am a sinner.

I also find it interesting how christians emphasise how their god absolutely hates evil, or sin or whatever and then call him a perfect, loving god.

I have to question how loving their god is if it hates with such passion.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:12 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not true.
I strongly doubt your ability to discern truth from fiction.

Quote:I disagree.  I provided a strong proof in the existence of a Creator and you just try to blow it off because you don't understand it or because you are blind to it or because of your own pride.  For some reason, you cannot see the truth.
I think you need to take the plank out of your eye.  You;ve presented two refutations of the existence of your god simply because you can;t concede that you were wrong about something.....all while trying to prove god....apparently.

You believe in ID God who granted you abilities.  ID is a failed hypothesis and you have no such ability.  You believe in a god that did things that never happened.  The god of the bible, meanwhile, is giving you the divine facepalm.

It knows that ID is trash and that you're scientifically illiterate, even though you don;t, if it exists.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 1:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: God hates evil and I hate evil.  That is the only hatred God has.  I try to make that my only hatred as well but I struggle in my heart because I am a sinner.

I also find it interesting how christians emphasise how their god absolutely hates evil, or sin or whatever and then call him a perfect, loving god.

I have to question how loving their god is if it hates with such passion.

He must hate evil to be perfectly loving.

Evil is terrible and deserves to be hated.  I don't wish evil on anyone.  There is righteous killing though; such as, during a just war, in self-defense, or when justly hunting animals to eat.  That is not evil.  Murder is evil though.  God hates murder, rape, adultery, disrespect to parents,...

(May 16, 2018 at 2:22 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 2:12 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Not true.
I strongly doubt your ability to discern truth from fiction.

Quote:I disagree.  I provided a strong proof in the existence of a Creator and you just try to blow it off because you don't understand it or because you are blind to it or because of your own pride.  For some reason, you cannot see the truth.
I think you need to take the plank out of your eye.  You;ve presented two refutations of the existence of your god simply because you can;t concede that you were wrong about something.....all while trying to prove god....apparently.

You believe in ID God who granted you abilities.  ID is a failed hypothesis and you have no such ability.  You believe in a god that did things that never happened.  The god of the bible, meanwhile, is giving you the divine facepalm.

It knows that ID is trash and that you're scientifically illiterate, even though you don;t.

I doubt your ability to discern truth from fiction as well.

I disagree. You are using a straw man argument and just saying ID God doesn't exist,... You cannot refute the information in DNA,...., and all the other proof and evidence I have provided.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
This isn;t a god problem, or a me problem. It;s a you problem. Maybe you ought to take some personal responsibility for that?

Or you can continue to externalize blame and failure, heaping piles of it on the god you claim to believe in for failing to create the universe or life in the manner that you prefer and anyone who points that out.

Your call.

In any case, I;m not the one making the argument that god doesn;t exist. You are..I keep offering you a way out of the trap your own ignorance crafted...but ID seems to be more important than god, to you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
The only way god and perfect work together in the same sentence is by stating that god is the perfect fiction concocted by the fallible human mind.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 12:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 12:53 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OK, so how has god punished you?

I have my defects and my struggles.  It has been a pretty rough road with ups and downs in my life. I am 39 years old and I have gone through quite a bit in my opinion.

Without details it's hard to determine "pretty rough" and put it in context.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:27 pm)Khemikal Wrote: This isn;t a god problem, or a me problem. It;s a you problem. Maybe you ought to take some personal responsibility for that?

Or you can continue to externalize blame and failure, heaping piles of it on the god you claim to believe in for failing to create the universe or life in the manner that you prefer and anyone who points that out.

Your call.

In any case, I;m not the one making the argument that god doesn;t exist,.  You are..I  keep offering you a way out of the trap your own ignorance crafted.

No way.  You are blind to the existence of God shown in His creation.

(May 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 12:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I have my defects and my struggles.  It has been a pretty rough road with ups and downs in my life. I am 39 years old and I have gone through quite a bit in my opinion.

Without details it's hard to determine "pretty rough" and put it in context.

I'd prefer not to share that on this board where I am hated by numerous people.  Every weakness I have will be exploited and mocked. That is part of the MO of a number of the posters here. Not all but a number of them.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Let me ask you this...how did it come to pass that the "blind" person in the equation finds themselves trying and failing to rescue god from the ignorance and pig-headedness of the one that can see him?

I;m over here trying to pull your baby out of a fire you started..and you're arguing with me, and refusing to let me do so, lol.

Do you need to be right so badly that you'd reduce your own god to a joke?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Let me ask you this...how did it come to pass that the "blind" person in the equation finds themselves trying and failing to rescue god from the ignorance and pig-headedness of the one than can see him?

We just seem to disagree on design as shown in the creation and in living systems.  I don't hold anything personal against you.  I just will never come to agree that the information in DNA doesn't prove God exists,....
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 16, 2018 at 2:23 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 16, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Mathilda Wrote: I have to question how loving their god is if it hates with such passion.

He must hate evil to be perfectly loving.

Evil is terrible and deserves to be hated.  I don't wish evil on anyone.  There is righteous killing though; such as, during a just war, in self-defense, or when justly hunting animals to eat.  That is not evil.  Murder is evil though.  God hates murder, rape, adultery, disrespect to parents,...

See, this is exactly what I mean. Adultery and disrespect to parents is not the same as murder and rape. But your god still hates it, and so too do his followers. The hateful god that you are depicting is very different from an understanding god that one would expect a loving god to be.

I am entirely in agreement with Abaddon here. You are one sick individual.

The god you worship is actually a projected image of your own hatred.
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