(May 24, 2018 at 1:09 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 24, 2018 at 12:53 am)Wololo Wrote: [*]

So then you are wrong about the  old testament laws, for Jesus said of them:
"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Of course that's assunimg he even existed, which given the lack of vevidence and serious inaccuracies in the bible is a big ask.

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Once we are saved and reborn in Christ we are to become more Christ like and want to obey the Ten Commandments.  Just because we are saved by grace does not mean we have free will to sin against God's law.  God forbid.

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(May 24, 2018 at 1:00 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: It is sad brains as evolved as those of baboons had been could subsequently so drastically disevolve as to end up Christian.

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Now re-read your post where you are trying to insult the intelligence of a Christian, I think, and see how much sense it makes.

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(May 24, 2018 at 1:03 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Nope christianity is as much a myth as any other myth . You follow a myth .


Nope i know because no one is that foolish 


Nope fact . Your statement is the nonsense.

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Yup because he never existed 



You can't be saved by a non existent person

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Nothing was created without the presence of Jesus.  One day, your knee will bow and you tongue will confess Christ is the Lord.

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One day you will die and beyond death you will find nothing.  Jesus is nothing.  God is nothing, and you would have spent the only life you will ever have attempting to suck up to nothing.  Worse. You would have squandered the only chance you will have in the entire existence of all universe to actually be not to help your your self, nor fellow men, but conniving ineffectually, if such a word as conniving can be demeaned to apply to such mental processes of which you can be capable, to degrade them into wasted servants of nothing, like you.

If the universe was intelligently designed by a compentent designer benevolent towards mankind, then it would have offered mankind at least the minimally congenial condition of freedom from such disgrace as yourself.  

Only in a universe where sheer purposeless and heartless random chance ruled could the tragicomedy of you have been inflicted upon an innocent mankind.

The thing about truth is that it doesn't need messengers or advocates. Truth is true regardless. I don't need people knocking on my door to tell me that objects will drop when I release them or that there is no smallest positive real number.

The truth does not require emotional manipulation, either.

(May 24, 2018 at 2:24 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(May 24, 2018 at 1:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: [*]

Once we are saved and reborn in Christ we are to become more Christ like and want to obey the Ten Commandments.  Just because we are saved by grace does not mean we have free will to sin against God's law.  God forbid.

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Now re-read your post where you are trying to insult the intelligence of a Christian, I think, and see how much sense it makes.

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Nothing was created without the presence of Jesus.  One day, your knee will bow and you tongue will confess Christ is the Lord.

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One day you will die and beyond death you will find nothing.  Jesus is nothing.  God is nothing, and you would have spent the only life you will ever have attempting to suck up to nothing.  Worse. You would have squandered the only chance you will have in the entire existence of all universe to actually be not to help your your self, nor fellow men, but conniving ineffectually, if such a word as conniving can be demeaned to apply to such mental processes of which you can be capable, to degrade them into wasted servants of nothing, like you.

If the universe was intelligently designed by a compentent designer benevolent towards mankind, then it would have offered mankind at least the minimally congenial condition of freedom from such disgrace as yourself.  

Only in a universe where sheer purposeless and heartless random chance ruled could the tragicomedy of you have been inflicted upon an innocent mankind.

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So I take it you are not a fan of mine.

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(May 24, 2018 at 2:36 am)robvalue Wrote: The thing about truth is that it doesn't need messengers or advocates. Truth is true regardless. I don't need people knocking on my door to tell me that objects will drop when I release them or that there is no smallest positive real number.

The truth does not require emotional manipulation, either.

The truth is much bigger than what you perceive.

(May 24, 2018 at 2:40 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 24, 2018 at 2:24 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: [*]


One day you will die and beyond death you will find nothing.  Jesus is nothing.  God is nothing, and you would have spent the only life you will ever have attempting to suck up to nothing.  Worse. You would have squandered the only chance you will have in the entire existence of all universe to actually be not to help your your self, nor fellow men, but conniving ineffectually, if such a word as conniving can be demeaned to apply to such mental processes of which you can be capable, to degrade them into wasted servants of nothing, like you.

If the universe was intelligently designed by a compentent designer benevolent towards mankind, then it would have offered mankind at least the minimally congenial condition of freedom from such disgrace as yourself.  

Only in a universe where sheer purposeless and heartless random chance ruled could the tragicomedy of you have been inflicted upon an innocent mankind.

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So I take it you are not a fan of mine.

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(May 24, 2018 at 2:36 am)robvalue Wrote: The thing about truth is that it doesn't need messengers or advocates. Truth is true regardless. I don't need people knocking on my door to tell me that objects will drop when I release them or that there is no smallest positive real number.

The truth does not require emotional manipulation, either.

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The truth is much bigger than what you perceive.

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It must be inconceivably tiny if even such worthless messengers as you could possibly be of any help to it.

(May 24, 2018 at 2:47 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(May 24, 2018 at 2:40 am)CDF47 Wrote: [*]

So I take it you are not a fan of mine.

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The truth is much bigger than what you perceive.

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It must be inconceivably tiny if even such worthless messengers as you could possibly be of any help to it.

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Sucks that you feel that way.

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Some estimate that Jesus was prophesied 300 times in the Old Testament. Below are 55 of them:

https://www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stori...ecies.html

Quote:You will see and actually I didn't threaten anyone.  I wouldn't do that.  I simply stated what the Bible (the word of God) states.

Nope still a threat .It does not matter if you quote your ludicrous collection of myths .It remains a threat .

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Quote:Some estimate that Jesus was prophesied 300 times in the Old Testament. Below are 55 of them:

https://www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stori...ecies.html

Apologist propaganda bollocks.

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Quote:The truth is much bigger than what you perceive.

To bad you have no truth .

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Quote:I am just speaking the truth to a number of atheists.  Some of the people on this board may not be familiar with some of the things I state regarding DNA, molecular machines, the universe, the Lord,.....

You have not spoken the truth to anyone . And there is nothing have shown that we didn't already know .

(May 24, 2018 at 2:50 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 24, 2018 at 2:47 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: [*]


It must be inconceivably tiny if even such worthless messengers as you could possibly be of any help to it.

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Sucks that you feel that way.

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Some estimate that Jesus was prophesied 300 times in the Old Testament.  Below are 55 of them:

https://www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stori...ecies.html

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Sucks for you, not for me.

Your entire sense of self worth is bound up in the delusion that the infinitesimally tiny is actually overarchingly great, and your self esteem and much sought sense of false security requires the validation of convincing others of the same.  That’s why you are here and can’t bear to leave. You’ve been sadly manipulated to seek this validation and derive this false sense of security because the cult you’ve so pitifully fallen for aggrandizes itself by making the likes of you into its willing pawns in this manner.

I am indifferent to whether it turns out to be great or small.  Instead I concern myself with where demonstrably effective methods of fact finding has been followed in assessing its size, and where those methods were followed is not where the ID hucksters reside.   Where demonstrably effective method of fact finding is followed, it is assessed to be so small it is not distinguishable at all from really being nothing at all.

(May 24, 2018 at 3:06 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:You will see and actually I didn't threaten anyone.  I wouldn't do that.  I simply stated what the Bible (the word of God) states.

Nope still a threat .It does not matter if you quote your ludicrous collection of myths .It remains a threat .

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Quote:Some estimate that Jesus was prophesied 300 times in the Old Testament. Below are 55 of them:

https://www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stori...ecies.html

Apologist propaganda  bollocks.

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Quote:The truth is much bigger than what you perceive.

To bad you have no truth .

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Quote:I am just speaking the truth to a number of atheists.  Some of the people on this board may not be familiar with some of the things I state regarding DNA, molecular machines, the universe, the Lord,.....

You have not spoken the truth to anyone . And there is nothing have shown that we didn't already know .

Yeah, yeah, you guys know it all.  I've heard that script before.  You are blinded by your own arrogance.

Of course the truth is "bigger" than what I know. I openly admit that I know very little of everything there is to know, and that's just amongst the known unknowns. Then there's the unknown unknowns. My knowledge is absolutely tiny. So is everyone's, including this preacher man. How arrogant to assume he has some revelatory truths to "teach" to every atheist, even those with far more relevant scientific qualifications than his. I feel no need to fill gaps in my knowledge with mythological bullshit.

Going around claiming to know more of the truth than other people, while blowing out hot air for hundreds of pages, doesn't make someone any more knowledgable. Maybe learn a little humility, and adopt the stance you are preaching to us.

(May 24, 2018 at 3:27 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(May 24, 2018 at 2:50 am)CDF47 Wrote: [*]

Sucks that you feel that way.

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Some estimate that Jesus was prophesied 300 times in the Old Testament.  Below are 55 of them:

https://www.jesusfilm.org/blog-and-stori...ecies.html

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Sucks for you, not for me.

Your entire sense of self worth is bound up in the delusion that the infinitesimally tiny is actually overarchingly great, and your self esteem and much sought sense of false security requires the validation of convincing others of the same.  That’s why you are here and can’t bear to leave.   You’ve been sadly manipulated to seek this validation and derive this false sense of security because the cult you’ve so pitifully fallen for aggrandizes itself by making the likes of you into its willing pawns in this manner.

I am indifferent to whether it turns out to be great or small.  Instead I concern myself with where demonstrably effective methods of fact finding has been followed in assessing its size, and where those methods were followed  is not where the ID hucksters reside.   Where demonstrably effective method of fact finding is followed, it is assessed to be so small it is not distinguishable at all from really being nothing at all.

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Try to discredit the real brilliant scientists in ID.  I've seen that trick before.  I am not buying that they are hucksters.  Instead, I believe scientists in the ID field are targeted just like the movie Expelled shows.

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(May 24, 2018 at 3:42 am)robvalue Wrote: Of course the truth is "bigger" than what I know. I openly admit that I know very little of everything there is to know, and that's just amongst the known unknowns. Then there's the unknown unknowns. My knowledge is absolutely tiny. So is everyone's, including this preacher man. How arrogant to assume he has some revelatory truths to "teach" to every atheist, even those with far more relevant scientific qualifications than his. I feel no need to fill gaps in my knowledge with mythological bullshit.

Going around claiming to know more of the truth than other people, while blowing out hot air for hundreds of pages, doesn't make someone any more knowledgable. Maybe learn a little humility, and adopt the stance you are preaching to us.

I am not the one acting like I know it all.  I do probably know more about the Bible than some in here since I study it so much and I may know more than some regarding DNA, molecular machines, and the universe since some of the feedback I received did not acknowledge the proof it provides to a Creator. However, some of that may just be part of the big agenda.