(May 29, 2018 at 12:05 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:I did but I don't understand how you don't get it.

Because there is nothing to get your wrong .

Actually, I am right about this.  Science disagrees with you.

Quote:Actually, I am right about this.  Science disagrees with you.

No actually your wrong .And REAL science totally agrees with me .Only pseudoscience and creationist lies agree with your fallacy laden bollocks .

CDF47, they won't ever get it.

It's like when the people of Pharaoh saw sorcery of sorcerers and then thought no matter what miracles Moses did, it must be of the same thing and not proofs.

They read in text books about evolution of black moths over white moths cause of smoke industrial thing and what not, and can't see design no matter what.

They think giraffe necks getting taller, and then can't see the concept of irreducible complexity of systems in nature.

They won't see this no matter how much you repeat it. If they going to get a AHA moment, it won't be from us, but love of God stirring them to reflect and perceive.

Because there is nothing to get .And thus far nothing to see . Just like him mystic you equally failed to make a case for design on you own thread . Your peas in a pod . Both using the same fallacies and lies to push your agenda . And frustrated by the fact were not buying it .

MK, it's funny you should mention the giraffe. It has one spectacular example of crappy design, a laryngeal nerve that takes a ridiculous detour to get to where it's going.

If that's the work of a "designer," I'm not impressed.

(May 29, 2018 at 1:02 am)Astreja Wrote: MK, it's funny you should mention the giraffe.  It has one spectacular example of crappy design, a laryngeal nerve that takes a ridiculous detour to get to where it's going.

If that's the work of a "designer," I'm not impressed.

Not to mention we can already trace the history of the giraffe. And don't use this argument as Creationists will just invent some Ad hoc bullocks to try and explain it away . When your ideology is built on making shit up anything fits.

(May 29, 2018 at 1:04 am)Tizheruk Wrote:  And don't use this argument as Creationists will just invent some Ad hoc bullocks to try and explain it away. 

It's telling that they do resort to making up new crap to explain previous crap.  Makes the absence of physical data and the prevalence of wishful thinking all the more obvious.

(May 29, 2018 at 1:02 am)Astreja Wrote: MK, it's funny you should mention the giraffe.  It has one spectacular example of crappy design, a laryngeal nerve that takes a ridiculous detour to get to where it's going.

If that's the work of a "designer," I'm not impressed.

Oh man, I wasn't using giraffe necks as proof. I was using it as proof that text books teach simple examples of evolution, like a giraffe neck developing over time to be taller.

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

It proves design in many respects because of a paradox.

(May 26, 2018 at 10:30 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 26, 2018 at 9:54 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So, then, if a paper airplane is not intelligent, the fact that a computer is.. is not for having been created by us..this is a trait that a computer shares with unintelligent things, like paper airplanes.  

I;m entirely uninterested in your creator beliefs, at present...though I;m amused that you capitalized it out of habit even though you were referring to human beings.

Moving forward, if you're ready to participate..now.

A mindless intelligence can account for the sorts of information which you take to be instructive.  Agreed?

It takes an intelligent mind to be instructive.

(May 29, 2018 at 12:07 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 12:05 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Because there is nothing to get your wrong .

Actually, I am right about this.  Science disagrees with you.

Science says you are YOU are abjectly wrong.

Science says your god, Behe, is wrong.

Maths says your demi-god Meyers is wrong.

The bible says you are wrong.

Everyone here says you are wrong.

Could you even be more wrong?

(May 29, 2018 at 1:11 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(May 29, 2018 at 1:02 am)Astreja Wrote: MK, it's funny you should mention the giraffe.  It has one spectacular example of crappy design, a laryngeal nerve that takes a ridiculous detour to get to where it's going.

If that's the work of a "designer," I'm not impressed.

Oh man, I wasn't using giraffe necks as proof. I was using it as proof that text books teach simple examples of evolution, like a giraffe neck developing over time to be taller.

And they don't dare to even mention irreducible complexity of systems and make us think how to solve those issues. And it's obvious why. There is no solution to irreducible complexity. 

It proves design in many respects because of a paradox.

That's because there is no paradox or evidence of irreducible complexity. Nothing but fallacies and your wholesale ignorance of evolutionary biology .