Has he said anything new in the last 40 pages? Or even the last 390 pages?

This God guy needs to employ better salesmen than these brow-beaters.

(June 1, 2018 at 6:04 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 1, 2018 at 5:54 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Of course it is, the jump to ' coming from intelligence ' that is an assertion that you have failed to provide evidence for. This in the face of perfectly rational natural explanations, all of which you have failed to address.

You do realise that simply claiming an invisible powerful all knowing being did it is not a reasonable explanation right ?

It had to come from a super-intelligence.  That is the only logical explanation for the vast amounts of functional information to this degree.

Firstly it is not the only explanation as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum.


And if intelligent things only come from intelligent things where did the first intelligent thing come from?

think about it.

Quote:Yes, it does.  You cannot refute the information inside DNA.  Nice charts

I already linked several articles that blow away ID's genetic case .

Quote:Why do atheists have so much faith that this world just came out of nothing. Yes, it does take faith to believe this. You may think up some process of how you think this impossibility may happen but essentially that is the thought. It makes absolutely no sense to me in defense of all the evidence of a super-intelligent Designer

Strawmen  .And long winded assertions.And nice hint of personnel credulity .

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Quote:It is obvious, a super-intelligence created everything. 

Far from it 

Quote:Most of you are smart enough to realize that. I can tell you are that smart.

We are smart .Far to smart to fall for ID pseudoscience . And to stick with real science .

Quote: So why deny the Creator? 

There is nothing to deny 

Quote:He is the Father and Creator of the world. I hope you open your eyes to that fact.

Religious prattle.

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(June 2, 2018 at 5:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Has he said anything new in the last 40 pages? Or even the last 390 pages?

This God guy needs to employ better salesmen than these brow-beaters.

It does amaze me .That they think that tactic will work.

(June 2, 2018 at 5:20 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(June 1, 2018 at 6:04 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It had to come from a super-intelligence.  That is the only logical explanation for the vast amounts of functional information to this degree.

Firstly it is not the only explanation as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum.


And if intelligent things only come from intelligent things where did the first intelligent thing come from?

think about it.

The first intelligence just is and always has been.  I believe that is the Christian God of the Bible.  He is the primordial One.

Quote:The first intelligence just is and always has been.  I believe that is the Christian God of the Bible.  He is the primordial One.

In other words special pleading mixed with mystic mumbo jumbo

Still feeding the troll, guys?

(June 2, 2018 at 5:55 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:The first intelligence just is and always has been.  I believe that is the Christian God of the Bible.  He is the primordial One.

In other words special pleading mixed with mystic mumbo jumbo

No, the master intelligence just is and always has been.

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(June 2, 2018 at 5:59 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Still feeding the troll, guys?

I am not trolling.  Every word I say I totally mean and intend.  The only exception to this is if I am clearly joking about something.

(June 2, 2018 at 4:21 am)CDF47 Wrote: Why do atheists have so much faith that this world just came out of nothing.  Yes, it does take faith to believe this.  

This here is why your proposal cannot be accepted as is.
It takes faith to believe it. You admit it. That is why it's not science.
That is why it does not belong in any science text book.

(June 2, 2018 at 4:21 am)CDF47 Wrote: You may think up some process of how you think this impossibility may happen but essentially that is the thought.  It makes absolutely no sense to me in defense of all the evidence of a super-intelligent Designer.

To you. To you. To you!
To your limited mind, it makes no sense. To your limited and probably conditioned mind only a god makes sense as an answer to your question about the DNA. TO YOU!
To us, there are many other potential answers and none of them would require faith, nor a god, nor a super intelligence, nor any being that acts upon this world in unmeasurable ways, but that produce a measurable effect.

Your mind is the one that is falling for the fallacious reasoning!
Your mind is the one that is accepting a ready answer instead of thinking.
Your mind is the one that is having faith in the ID position.

(June 2, 2018 at 6:03 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 2, 2018 at 5:55 am)Tizheruk Wrote: In other words special pleading mixed with mystic mumbo jumbo

No, the master intelligence just is and always has been.

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(June 2, 2018 at 5:59 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Still feeding the troll, guys?

I am not trolling.  Every word I say I totally mean and intend.  The only exception to this is if I am clearly joking about something.

You're lying.

(June 2, 2018 at 5:51 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 2, 2018 at 5:20 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Firstly it is not the only explanation as has been pointed out to you ad infinitum.


And if intelligent things only come from intelligent things where did the first intelligent thing come from?

think about it.

The first intelligence just is and always has been.  I believe that is the Christian God of the Bible.  He is the primordial One.

But you said intelligence had to come from intelligence if it "just is" then we could say the same for everything we don't understand. It is a non-answer, it is worse than that its lazy and stupid.