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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 5, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 5, 2018 at 12:08 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Didn't say that . I was pointing out those things are nothing like your ID garbage 


Yeah because i'm living in reality were ID is garbage your living in a dream world where it's equal to the sky is blue.

No, I was just testing the lengths you would go to disagree with me and the truth.

Ah, yes, Christian humility on exhibit along with Christian delusion.   disagree with me and the truth.

Sorry to say but, you, being Christian and therefore an pathetic adherent of some of the most disgraceful deceits ever perpetrated by men, would be amongst the least suitable in all human history to opine about truth.

Perhaps more so than with most real people, and perhaps even with some Christians, disagreeing with you would be a good place to embark upon a journey of getting closer to the truth.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 4, 2018 at 8:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 4, 2018 at 1:13 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Now, do you know why this one;s ridiculous?  Assuming we do live in a designed universe..the particulars of this designed universe would have to -be- possible if the design itself were to be possible.  If a universe like this one wasn;t possible before any notions of design are factored in, no amount of designing it would make it work.

If you;re going to find endless ways to refuse to engage in your own conversation..at least put in the effort to make that refusal cogent.

My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required

Then say -that-.  You need to learn to say what you mean and mean what you say.  Or don;t, because it;s equally ridiculous.  

Fuck it, I'll run with it, though. Maybe you should inform your god of this fact? If you can;t get a whole universe from nothing, how would having a design help you to accomplish what can;t be done? I could have sworn we -just- talked about that?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
bump!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 4, 2018 at 9:47 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 4, 2018 at 9:41 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: There is nothing to disagree on your objectively wrong on all points . Thus your disagreement is irrelevant.You can't opininate reality . 


No they did not

We just disagree on everything.  Do you agree that the sky is blue?  That is my assertion.  Also, water is wet.  I will assert that as well.

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 4, 2018 at 9:00 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 4, 2018 at 8:34 pm)possibletarian Wrote: How do you know ?
Who is claiming the universe came from nothing, do you have any evidence to support the universe came from nothing ?
Why is design required ?

A design is required because you can't get something/everything from nothing.  The universe had a beginning and is fine-tuned based on the most widely accepted scientific theories.  It was designed.

None of that answered my questions, your answers seem to be a simply be a dogmatic assertion rather than a conversation.
But lets take one thing at a time, what makes you think the universe came from nothing ?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 4, 2018 at 8:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required.

You can't get a whole God from nothing. A design is required.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 5, 2018 at 9:39 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(June 4, 2018 at 8:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required.

You can't get a whole God from nothing. A design is required.

True God can't from nothing. No design required though.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 5, 2018 at 12:03 am)CDF47 Wrote: So you don't believe the sky is blue or that water is wet?  Now wonder why we disagree on everything.

This level of idiocy is a deliberate choice. You can't actually be this stupid and still construct a comprehensible sentence.

(June 5, 2018 at 9:41 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 5, 2018 at 9:39 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: You can't get a whole God from nothing. A design is required.

True God can't from nothing. No design required though.

If a design isn't necessary to explain an omniscient all-powerful being, it certainly can't be necessary to explain our limited cosmos.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 5, 2018 at 9:42 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: If a design isn't necessary to explain an omniscient all-powerful being, it certainly can't be necessary to explain our limited cosmos.

Not true. Why do you say that?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 5, 2018 at 9:47 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 5, 2018 at 9:42 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: If a design isn't necessary to explain an omniscient all-powerful being, it certainly can't be necessary to explain our limited cosmos.

Not true. Why do you say that?

Because you can't say the universe is too amazing to not be designed out of one side of your mouth and say Allah is so amazing that it's ridiculous to say he must be designed out of the other side, without contradicting yourself.

It's the inherent contradiction of claiming that only design can account for something that's complex, if that's true, you have to apply the same reasoning to the Creator. If you admit there is an exception to the rule (the Creator), there can be other exceptions to the rule, else it's special pleading. In other words, if the Creator did not have to be designed, then it is not true that amazing/complex things always have to be designed.

So, true. That's why I said that.
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