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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:09 am
(June 6, 2018 at 5:00 am)CDF47 Wrote: Right, creationist in the Catholic sense is what I meant.
I agree there is some adaptation in micro-evolution that occurs.
But, somehow, only god can thrust his hand into DNA and produce a new branch of life, huh?
It can never, never in hundreds of millions of years, and many more generations, never happen naturally following the known "rules" of biology?
(June 6, 2018 at 5:00 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I believe the Bible was written by saints, prophets, and apostles and I believe it is the inspired word of God. The Bible was written by approximately 40 authors over a 1500 year period and it is as if the entire Book was written by one mind. There is no other Book like it.
I know you believe that.
That's why I used the word imagine so many times.
Can you imagine that the bible was written by people not too different from yourself? ...With a similar desire to share their ideas through the medium available to them?
Always building upon what the others have written before them so as to keep it consistent as a whole?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:10 am
(June 6, 2018 at 2:46 am)CDF47 Wrote: (June 6, 2018 at 2:23 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Apologies. I didn't realise that you were a muslim.
I am Christian. Really different religion from Islam. They do not recognize Jesus as the Son of God which He is.
Nope. You are a muslim. That is where ID leads.
Prove me wrong.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:19 am
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(June 6, 2018 at 5:09 am)pocaracas Wrote: (June 6, 2018 at 5:00 am)CDF47 Wrote: Right, creationist in the Catholic sense is what I meant.
I agree there is some adaptation in micro-evolution that occurs.
But, somehow, only god can thrust his hand into DNA and produce a new branch of life, huh?
It can never, never in hundreds of millions of years, and many more generations, never happen naturally following the known "rules" of biology?
(June 6, 2018 at 5:00 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I believe the Bible was written by saints, prophets, and apostles and I believe it is the inspired word of God. The Bible was written by approximately 40 authors over a 1500 year period and it is as if the entire Book was written by one mind. There is no other Book like it.
I know you believe that.
That's why I used the word imagine so many times.
Can you imagine that the bible was written by people not too different from yourself? ...With a similar desire to share their ideas through the medium available to them?
Always building upon what the others have written before them so as to keep it consistent as a whole?
No, I do not believe the information in DNA could ever happen naturally. The molecular machines it builds could also never happen as well. Not in a trillion trillion trillion,....., years.
No, I could not imagine that.
(June 6, 2018 at 5:10 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (June 6, 2018 at 2:46 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am Christian. Really different religion from Islam. They do not recognize Jesus as the Son of God which He is.
Nope. You are a muslim. That is where ID leads.
Prove me wrong.
ID is science and does not identify a Creator. I personally believe the Creator is the Christian God of the Bible. Allah in the Quran says he is the greatest deceiver. He is mentioned as a great deceiver many times in the Quran. The Christian Bible says God is perfectly holy and cannot lie or deceive. It labels the devil as the author of lies.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:27 am
(June 6, 2018 at 5:19 am)CDF47 Wrote: (June 6, 2018 at 5:09 am)pocaracas Wrote: But, somehow, only god can thrust his hand into DNA and produce a new branch of life, huh?
It can never, never in hundreds of millions of years, and many more generations, never happen naturally following the known "rules" of biology?
I know you believe that.
That's why I used the word imagine so many times.
Can you imagine that the bible was written by people not too different from yourself? ...With a similar desire to share their ideas through the medium available to them?
Always building upon what the others have written before them so as to keep it consistent as a whole?
No, I do not believe the information in DNA could ever happen naturally. The molecular machines it builds could also never happen as well. Not in a trillion trillion trillion,....., years.
No, I could not imagine that.
(June 6, 2018 at 5:10 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. You are a muslim. That is where ID leads.
Prove me wrong.
ID is science and does not identify a Creator. I personally believe the Creator is the Christian God of the Bible. Allah in the Quran says he is the greatest deceiver. He is mentioned as a great deceiver many times in the Quran. The Christian Bible says God is perfectly holy and cannot lie or deceive. It labels the devil as the author of lies.
Sure, Allah in the quran correctly identifies your bible god as the great deceiver. Don't know why you think that helps your case.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:29 am
Quote:Allah in the Quran says he is the greatest deceiver. He is mentioned as a great deceiver many times in the Quran.
I already addressed this and yes your god can and has lied in fiction
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:30 am
(June 6, 2018 at 5:27 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (June 6, 2018 at 5:19 am)CDF47 Wrote: No, I do not believe the information in DNA could ever happen naturally. The molecular machines it builds could also never happen as well. Not in a trillion trillion trillion,....., years.
No, I could not imagine that.
ID is science and does not identify a Creator. I personally believe the Creator is the Christian God of the Bible. Allah in the Quran says he is the greatest deceiver. He is mentioned as a great deceiver many times in the Quran. The Christian Bible says God is perfectly holy and cannot lie or deceive. It labels the devil as the author of lies.
Sure, Allah in the quran correctly identifies your bible god as the great deceiver. Don't know why you think that helps your case.
No, Allah is identified as a great deceiver, even the greatest deceiver in the Quran.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:30 am
Quote:No, I do not believe the information in DNA could ever happen naturally. The molecular machines it builds could also never happen as well. Not in a trillion trillion trillion,....., years.
Who cares what you think can happen
Quote:No, I could not imagine that
It does not matter what you can imagine
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:30 am
(June 6, 2018 at 5:29 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:Allah in the Quran says he is the greatest deceiver. He is mentioned as a great deceiver many times in the Quran.
I already addressed this and yes your god can and has lied in fiction
No, He didn't.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:31 am
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Quote:No, Allah is identified as a great deceiver, even the greatest deceiver in the Quran.
I already refuted this
Quote:No, He didn't.
Yes he did
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 6, 2018 at 5:43 am
(June 6, 2018 at 5:19 am)CDF47 Wrote: (June 6, 2018 at 5:09 am)pocaracas Wrote: But, somehow, only god can thrust his hand into DNA and produce a new branch of life, huh?
It can never, never in hundreds of millions of years, and many more generations, never happen naturally following the known "rules" of biology?
I know you believe that.
That's why I used the word imagine so many times.
Can you imagine that the bible was written by people not too different from yourself? ...With a similar desire to share their ideas through the medium available to them?
Always building upon what the others have written before them so as to keep it consistent as a whole?
No, I do not believe the information in DNA could ever happen naturally. The molecular machines it builds could also never happen as well. Not in a trillion trillion trillion,....., years.
No, I could not imagine that.
Do you suppose that both those things could stem from a shortcoming within your mind?
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