(June 15, 2018 at 7:13 am)CDF47 Wrote: Gods plan is working out how He planned it.  Things are born, live, decay, and die.  Even the universe will die one day.  It will likely be sooner than predicted by scientists though as the Lord is coming for His people and to annihilate this place.

(June 15, 2018 at 11:50 am)Khemikal Wrote: The good old micro/macro dodge....the faithful assertion that 1+1=2 but at no point will adding another 1 equal 3.

Reallly? 1 and 1 can be added to make 2? But All numbers came down from god complete and unchangable.

You know what, I got it. The 2 you make from adding 1 and1 has no soul, so it is beyond salvation. The 2 that got made is given a soul, so it can be saved.

CDF47 Wrote:
Gods plan is working out how He planned it.  Things are born, live, decay, and die.  Even the universe will die one day.  It will likely be sooner than predicted by scientists though as the Lord is coming for His people and to annihilate this place.

And here we are again, praying for the slaughter of billions of humans just because they don't abase themselves before your imaginary friend.  Billions upon billions of humans will be tortured forever, according to your evil book of fairy tales, and the sky-demon that you think created every one of them supposedly knew that they would be tortured forever BEFORE it decided to create humans and hell.   

I predict that "the Lord," as a fictional being, is incapable of showing up to come for its people.

Its people, however, can do a lot of damage to life on this planet if they are not constrained in some way.

(June 15, 2018 at 11:37 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(June 15, 2018 at 11:32 am)CDF47 Wrote: Macro/Micro was a typo.

Well gee....that clears everything up....... 

Do you actually know what you believe, and why?  Can you explain why you believe that science cannot explain our origins, and why it would even matter if that were the case?  Can you explain how the arbitrary (and apparently movable) cutoff line for evolutionary processes works and why it;s malfunctioning, allowing for things beyond that cutoff line?  Is there some reason that you cannot appreciate these processes for what they are and what they do -as- god at work?  What do you gain from denying the efficacy of what must be gods plan, if there is a god, and it does indeed -have- a plan?

What are you doing in this thread, and what do you hope to achieve?  Is it a soapbox for endlessly reasserting the articles of your faith..... or do you hope to make a case for that faith and explain it to others?

Darwin himself thought if the cell was anymore complex than a glob of protoplasm then his theory falls apart.  It turns out to be so much more complex than that, it isn't even funny.

(June 15, 2018 at 1:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 15, 2018 at 11:37 am)Khemikal Wrote: Well gee....that clears everything up....... 

Do you actually know what you believe, and why?  Can you explain why you believe that science cannot explain our origins, and why it would even matter if that were the case?  Can you explain how the arbitrary (and apparently movable) cutoff line for evolutionary processes works and why it;s malfunctioning, allowing for things beyond that cutoff line?  Is there some reason that you cannot appreciate these processes for what they are and what they do -as- god at work?  What do you gain from denying the efficacy of what must be gods plan, if there is a god, and it does indeed -have- a plan?

What are you doing in this thread, and what do you hope to achieve?  Is it a soapbox for endlessly reasserting the articles of your faith..... or do you hope to make a case for that faith and explain it to others?

Darwin himself thought if the cell was anymore complex than a glob of protoplasm then his theory falls apart.  It turns out to be so much more complex than that, it isn't even funny.

You see, the difference between you Christian bullshit and science is science does not rely on the word of the respected authority, but the reality.   There is nothing wrong with saying Darwin is wrong, unlike your pitiable hang up with saying Jesus is wrong, or the Bible is wrong? Or attributing bible to god is wrong? Or just god himself is wrong.

So it is all the more satisfying to laugh at Darwin being so wrong, about his theory being wrong.

Much as we laugh at Einstein for being so wrong, about his own cosmological constant being wrong.

It shows how much power foible humans have to be right in spite of themselves when freed from the shackles of your idiotic religion.

It also show how little confident morons like you really have in the core part of your belief system being right that you can’t bear to have any part of it shown wrong, as if such a thing still needs showing after it has already been shown so well by your posturing, strutting, tantrum throwing, food stomping, and hilariously supetcilious threat making on behalf of your ridiculous Jesus or the rag of Iron Age flimflam you hold in pitiable awe and call “scripture”.

(June 15, 2018 at 9:54 am)CDF47 Wrote:   

I believe, as according to Scripture the exact opposite is true.  That it is the unbeliever who knows deep down inside that there is a God.  I think you have this spun around.

I have never for a second believed in the silly notion that a god exists because I was not indoctrinated, and have seen no reason to start believing in my entire 50 years on this planet.

(June 15, 2018 at 2:13 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(June 15, 2018 at 9:54 am)CDF47 Wrote:   

I believe, as according to Scripture the exact opposite is true.  That it is the unbeliever who knows deep down inside that there is a God.  I think you have this spun around.

I have never for a second believed in the silly notion that a god exists because I was not indoctrinated, and have seen no reason to start believing in my entire 50 years on this planet.

Sorry to hear.  I could tell you the good news of the gospel is that the Son of God Himself clothed Himself in humanity, came to the earth as a servant leader, and died a brutal death on a cross to atone for the sin of man.  All man needs to do is truly believe in Jesus (the Son of God who lives forever) to be saved from what will either be eternal hell fire or annihilation of body and soul.  Those saved will enter paradise upon death.  This is the good news of the gospel.

(June 15, 2018 at 1:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Darwin himself thought if the cell was anymore complex than a glob of protoplasm then his theory falls apart.  It turns out to be so much more complex than that, it isn't even funny.

And yet the theory is anything made stronger by the DNA evidence.
It has yielded some surprising facts.
Like Salmon being more closely related to giraffes than they are to Lampreys (another kind of fish if you were wondering).
You would not have guessed that by looking at the form.

(June 15, 2018 at 2:31 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(June 15, 2018 at 1:49 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Darwin himself thought if the cell was anymore complex than a glob of protoplasm then his theory falls apart.  It turns out to be so much more complex than that, it isn't even funny.

And yet the theory is anything made stronger by the DNA evidence.
It has yielded some surprising facts.
Like Salmon being more closely related to giraffes than they are to Lampreys (another kind of fish if you were wondering).
You would not have guessed that by looking at the form.

Darwin's theory is based on a very simple form of life, not one with DNA code. He did not deal to well with origin.