Quote:I will concede that at present, the US already has military might that no other nation can match.

And yet, we seem to have a problem getting things done.

Sparta is always painted so heroically.  America seems to want to emulate it since the 40's.

You'll never get rich voting against military spending.

(June 24, 2018 at 2:46 am)Aroura Wrote:

Sparta is always painted so heroically.  America seems to want to emulate it since the 40's.

All they need to do now is embrace the rampant guy on guy sex 
The whole tossing crippled infants off a cliff 
Create 2 whole slave castes (kind of already done that) 
Embrace the whole not taking for oneself thing
Lose huge portions of their army 
And eventually be conquered by Thebes  
And wind up a tourist attraction centuries later

(June 24, 2018 at 12:45 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 12:32 am)AFTT47 Wrote: That kind of thinking kept me in the Republican camp from the time I was old enough to vote (1977) until 1992 when the threat of the Soviet Union had vanished and the Democrats finally put up a candidate with backbone (Bill Clinton).

I will concede that at present, the US already has military might that no other nation can match. I will argue though that that is precisely why Russia and China are relatively well-behaved. Both recognize that a military conflict with the US would be disastrous. It is in their best interests to compete in other ways. I would like to see that situation persist because if it were not the case, both would be all over us in a heartbeat.

It's worth noting that the US could cut our military expenditures in half and still spend more than both Russia and China COMBINED. By exactly how much isn't entirely clear, though.

And yet some of them claim that our military isn't strong enough. I wonder, strong enough for what? Conquering the entire world? You'd think every other developed country would be doing their level best to get America to chill out before WW3 happens because America starts taking everything.

(June 24, 2018 at 9:51 am)Chad32 Wrote: And yet some of them claim that our military isn't strong enough. I wonder, strong enough for what? Conquering the entire world? You'd think every other developed country would be doing their level best to get America to chill out before WW3 happens because America starts taking everything.

Trump said less than a week ago he wanted to militarize and conquer OUTER SPACE. Is it that far-fetched that the Republican Party wants to conquer the world?

(June 24, 2018 at 10:35 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 9:51 am)Chad32 Wrote: And yet some of them claim that our military isn't strong enough. I wonder, strong enough for what? Conquering the entire world? You'd think every other developed country would be doing their level best to get America to chill out before WW3 happens because America starts taking everything.

Trump said less than a week ago he wanted to militarize and conquer OUTER SPACE. Is it that far-fetched that the Republican Party wants to conquer the world?

They get to the next planet turns out to be inhabited by 


I think you might need to raise taxes

The fix is (obviously) in.

The dems are going to let the 'pubs spend on their bases interests in exchange for the ''pubs for the most part leaving social spending untouched.

And with the economy heating up some, some social spending is going to come down on it's own anyhow, and the economy will generate more tax revenues for all spending (yeah with more deficits). And overlooked is all the tariff money that is going to pour into the treasury.


I don't think Trumply will ever have a surplus like Bill Clinton did, but I'll say he's going to get closer than any other president since Ford if one goes by % and not actual (inflated) dollar amounts.

Recall, during WWII the US borrowed substantially less than 1 trillion dollars. We've pissed away more than that just on corruption, waste, fraud and abuse in Iraq.

USA is a Thug nation. Only a Thug can borrow so much and keep on doing so.

(June 24, 2018 at 2:46 am)Aroura Wrote:

Sparta is always painted so heroically.  America seems to want to emulate it since the 40's.

Sparta was the North Korea of Antiquity.  There was little about them that was admirable.