(June 26, 2018 at 5:32 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 12:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I reported him but haven’t heard anything about it.  Maybe if a few more people report we can get something done about this monkey.

Reports aren't ignored.

Some discussions take longer than others.  And results are sometimes delayed when staff are unavailable and consensus is required.

Please, folks, don't flood us with reports, especially about the same thing to try and make us respond faster.  That IS a violation of the rules.

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The oil takes a long time to boil?

(June 26, 2018 at 5:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Joods Wrote: Many of us have stated the obvious,  including some greenies. I'm not holding my breath.

I was told he wasn’t breaking any rules.  He’ll shoot him self in the foot eventually.  It’s only a matter of time.

Personally, I didn't report him. To me it was fascinating to see how far some individuals are prepared to go self-presenting as a drooling moron on the internet. It is as if they think that the anonymity of the internet allows there real world persona to be unleashed. "Who cares how dumb I appear, I'm scoring points" probably followed by "LOL" and a lot of ego preening. 

Course this is why I am a paid up subscriber to the wayback machine. The idiot does not get the option to erase their idiocy in my book. That said, I have not logged any of this thread. Why, you might ask? Simple. Some things are just too stupid to bother with.

(June 26, 2018 at 5:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Joods Wrote: Many of us have stated the obvious,  including some greenies. I'm not holding my breath.

I was told he wasn’t breaking any rules.  He’ll shoot him self in the foot eventually.  It’s only a matter of time.

--  And then he'll try to tell us it's stigmata.

(June 26, 2018 at 6:33 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 5:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I was told he wasn’t breaking any rules.  He’ll shoot him self in the foot eventually.  It’s only a matter of time.

--  And then he'll try to tell us it's stigmata.

I would consider a shot to the ribs closer to stigmata.

(June 25, 2018 at 6:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 1:51 pm)Wololo Wrote: If everything needs a creator, as the KCA asserts, then the question "what created god?" requires an answer describing the meta-creator, and the it's creator and that being's creator and so on in infinite regression.

It is the only possible answer to the KCA, turtles all the way down.

Their needs to be a first cause of intelligence.  The universe does not have a mind.  It took a mind to create the universe.  I believe this mind is the primordial one.

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(June 25, 2018 at 2:41 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: You see if god is a thing then he created himself because he falls in the region of a "thing" and you said god created "every thing".

Now if god is not a thing then you have conceded that god does not exist.

Either way you lose.

No, you know I said God is the primordial mind.  All else is created by Him.

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(June 25, 2018 at 5:31 pm)Wololo Wrote: And if it's only some things needing creators then what's to say that the universe is not part of the set which do not? Or humanity?

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Four hundred and one, more like!

Because the universe does not have an intelligent mind.

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(June 25, 2018 at 6:03 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

That's right because the universe has no intelligence of itself.

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(June 25, 2018 at 12:47 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: LOL.  I’m reporting you.

Reporting me for what?

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(June 25, 2018 at 5:23 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Yah, if the only thing in the category 'things that don't begin to exist' is God, then it's just another term for God and the premise of the Kalam is just rewording of 'everything needs a cause, except God', and we're back to special pleading.

It pushes the problem to an intelligent mind.

This "there needs to be an intelligence" shite is just a post-hoc justification on your part. You'd never have mentioned it if you weren't challenged.

And, worse, it doesn't solve the turtles all the way down problem. All it does is specifies one characteristic of the infiinite chain of creators. So I ask you what intelligent being created god? Under your rules god needs an intelligent creator to exist.

(June 26, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Like when you pronounced that we would bend our knees and proclaim the divinity of lord Jesus? I'm not sure it breaks any rule but common civility, but that sort of preaching isn't innocent.

It doesn't break the rules.  You guys brought on the religious conversations.

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(June 26, 2018 at 5:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Joods Wrote: Many of us have stated the obvious,  including some greenies. I'm not holding my breath.

I was told he wasn’t breaking any rules.  He’ll shoot him self in the foot eventually.  It’s only a matter of time.

That's right.  I am trying hard to abide by the rules despite the attacks on here.

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(June 26, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Wololo Wrote:

(June 25, 2018 at 6:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Their needs to be a first cause of intelligence.  The universe does not have a mind.  It took a mind to create the universe.  I believe this mind is the primordial one.

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No, you know I said God is the primordial mind.  All else is created by Him.

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Because the universe does not have an intelligent mind.

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That's right because the universe has no intelligence of itself.

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Reporting me for what?

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It pushes the problem to an intelligent mind.

This "there needs to be an intelligence" shite is just a post-hoc justification on your part.  You'd never have mentioned it if you weren't challenged.

And, worse, it doesn't solve the turtles all the way down problem.  All it does is specifies one characteristic of the infiinite chain of creators.  So I ask you what intelligent being created god?  Under your rules god needs an intelligent creator to exist.

No, he doesn't.  He is the primordial one and the ultimate reality and intelligence.  He created the universe and the living systems in it.  God doesn't need nor have a creator.

(June 26, 2018 at 12:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I reported him but haven’t heard anything about it.  Maybe if a few more people report we can get something done about this monkey.

(June 26, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Like when you pronounced that we would bend our knees and proclaim the divinity of lord Jesus? I'm not sure it breaks any rule but common civility, but that sort of preaching isn't innocent.

(June 26, 2018 at 4:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: We don't ignore rule-breaking, but thanks for the implication that we do.

(June 26, 2018 at 5:25 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: How about limiting the same assertion to 5 reoccurrences per 100 posts in each thread, unless new and substantively different arguments or evidences are presented.

He's good, one of the best I've seen.
Creating In house squabbling; isn’t that one of the aims of a troll? The prick will no doubt be laughing his arse off reading these posts.


Five hundred pages of a masterful troll making cunts out of you all. Why do I say that? Because its gone on for five hundred fucking pages that's why!

You-Are-Fucked.
There's no way out. You can't lock the thread because he'll run home and declare victory.
It's too late to abandon the thread because he'll run home and declare victory.
You can't mock the bastard into submission because he'll run home and declare victory.
You can't ban him for trolling, not after 500 pages because he'll run home and declare victory.

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This guy:*

Quote:Nay_Sayer CDF47 is a poe/troll(See my sig).  With the obvious out of the way for anyone even slightly doubtful of this need look no further than the structure of every one of his posts.  Every one is worded in the same matter of fact 'You're wrong and it's so obvious' style.  They are worded this way so that you, yes you reading this, keep replying to the thread in the valiant yet hopeless endeavor that you'll get one over on the wacky christian fundy.

You won't because he isn't one.  Instead, people have bit, gnawed and swallowed, whole hook, every bait sentence CDF47 has typed and seemingly there is no end in sight as we approach the second half what I can easily guess will be a 1000 pg thread before getting a part II.

If you're one of those people who is using this as an exercise in apologetics 101, I commend the effort but advise the same caution in wasting your time and feeding the narrative.

Yay verily,  FSM has asked me to deliver his message and so I have. May FSM's light guide you all.
RAmen.

Gets it.

*And a few others.

Some people are just smug bastards, but even if everyone is right and he is a troll, this thread isn’t 500 pages because of him. It’s because of everyone else.

(June 26, 2018 at 7:36 pm)Shell B Wrote: Some people are just smug bastards, but even if everyone is right and he is a troll, this thread isn’t 500 pages because of him. It’s because of everyone else.

Welcome to the "everyone else" group. 

(June 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Like when you pronounced that we would bend our knees and proclaim the divinity of lord Jesus? I'm not sure it breaks any rule but common civility, but that sort of preaching isn't innocent.

It doesn't break the rules.  You guys brought on the religious conversations.

Thread title...DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

Thread started by...CDF47.

No, that was you, troll.

(June 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 5:37 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I was told he wasn’t breaking any rules.  He’ll shoot him self in the foot eventually.  It’s only a matter of time.

That's right.  I am trying hard to abide by the rules despite the attacks on here.

Is that not what trolls do? Try to stay within the edges of the rules?

Yes, it is. That is exactly what trolls do.

(June 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(June 26, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Wololo Wrote: This "there needs to be an intelligence" shite is just a post-hoc justification on your part.  You'd never have mentioned it if you weren't challenged.

And, worse, it doesn't solve the turtles all the way down problem.  All it does is specifies one characteristic of the infiinite chain of creators.  So I ask you what intelligent being created god?  Under your rules god needs an intelligent creator to exist.

No, he doesn't.  He is the primordial one and the ultimate reality and intelligence.  He created the universe and the living systems in it.  God doesn't need nor have a creator.

Sure. Keep on making baseless claims. You could provide evidence, but you have none. DNA? Mere chemistry. That is how low you must sink and have sunk. You don't understand chemistry and you are proud of it.

How about alchemy? You believe that, right? After all, Newton did. You believe Newton, right?