So a guy attacks and murders journalists just as Milo Yiannopoulos called for journalists to be gunned down and Trump constantly calls the media the people's enemy. - What a "coincidence".

(June 29, 2018 at 3:10 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So a guy attacks and murders journalists just as Milo Yiannopoulos called for journalists to be gunned down and Trump constantly calls the media the people's enemy. - What a "coincidence".

Trump's and Milo's diarrhea had nothing to do with this particular killing spree.  The guy had an 8 year grudge against the newspaper.  So today he woke up and decided to resolve it.

Possible partial solution:

Whenever a male American attempts to purchase any sort of a firearm, the person selling it would be required to work into the conversation, 'So...are you happy about the size of your penis?'  If the answer is anything but, 'Damned right, I am!!', the potential buyer is immediately whisked away to a secret facility where 'NO GUNS EVER' is tattooed across his forehead.

Boru

(June 28, 2018 at 8:06 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(June 28, 2018 at 7:24 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Really?

Holy fucking crap. We make firearms like candy and hand them out like candy. 

I am tired of "motive". It does not fucking matter to me that it is mentally ill, workplace grudge, rejected lover, disturbed teen, religious, they all got access to firearms. 

And these mass shootings that make national news are a FRACTION of firearm injuries and deaths. Most are suicide, second is domestic murder, and third is accidental.

That said, I should point out that there are about 72 million gun owners in America. Combined total of gun injuries and deaths in America in 2013: 107,141. This includes murders, suicides, accidents, and people who just got shot. This is a ratio of 1 incident per 672 gun owners (assuming that each incident is attributable to one person, fat chance of that being the case). This statistic implies that gun ownership is not, in and of itself, a factor. The talk about motives is actually necessary to factoring what causes this one gun owner to do what the other 671 don't do.

Make no mistake, easy access to guns is, at best, a factor that isn't helping the national climate of fear. Naturally, we'd have a lot fewer of these shootings if we made it harder for them to actually get the guns, but then, we'd have a lot of other factors that could potentially lead to other, different types of massacres. Potential terrorists have finally caught onto the fact that a car can be a perfect killing machine, even if you don't have spy movie gadgets or even armor modifying it. My own car weighs about a ton and a half and can reach 60 miles per hour in 8.4 seconds.

And the sad thing is I'm not even sure what else there is to do. To quote David Wong on the 2016 Munich shooting):

Quote:Well, Germany already has strict gun control laws which include mandatory psychological testing -- he got his gun illegally. No point in talking about getting tough on ISIS -- this had nothing to do with them. You can talk about stopping Muslim immigrants, and the irony is that Ali David Sonboly would apparently agree with you. You can talk about mental health, but he was already getting treatment.


You can say that the coverage of the 2011 Norway attack inspired this copycat, but what would you do differently, coverage-wise? Report the event and conspicuously leave out the guy's name, background, and motivation? That just makes him more mysterious and intriguing to people like Sonboly, and adds to the public's ignorance about what causes tragedies like this.

All this says to me is that there are 72 million people who don't have a reason to own a gun.
Take their guns away and what would happen? Nothing.
Take their cars away and what would happen? Nothing?

Actually the guy had a hatred for the journalist who published a story that featured the guy. That journalist was no longer working for the paper. The shooter had a lawsuit against the paper but it was dismissed by the judge for "lack of evidence".

I want to point to the degree of "extremism" of Islam; ban these brown terrorists from entering our beloved land that our ancestors killed the indians for.

Let's be honest: it's gotta be "Muslims" involved. They should be banned from entering America. That way, America will be safe again.

America's problem is Muslims. Mark my word; America will be great again if we ban Muslims.

White people can't kill the innocent.
Look; life is types: there is the white type, and the colored type.

There is a hidden third type: the "Moslem" type. They are brown; killers; rapist; and must be kicked out of Europe and America !
Hell yeah !!!

(June 29, 2018 at 10:11 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I want to point to the degree of "extremism" of Islam; ban these brown terrorists from entering our beloved land that our ancestors killed the indians for.

Let's be honest: it's gotta be "Muslims" involved. They should be banned from entering America. That way, America will be safe again.

America's problem is Muslims. Mark my word; America will be great again if we ban Muslims.

White people can't kill the innocent.
Look; life is types: there is the white type, and the colored type.

There is a hidden third type: the "Moslem" type. They are brown; killers; rapist; and must be kicked out of Europe and America !
Hell yeah !!!

Hopefully you haven't forgotten "sand niggers".

Live coverage of a press conference on CNN now.

(June 29, 2018 at 2:07 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 28, 2018 at 8:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: CNN just put a stupid subtitle at the bottom of the screen, "Targeted attack".

NO FUCKING SHIT, if the shooter didn't want a target nobody would be dead.

Does it really matter if the shooter singled someone out, or picked them at random? How does either make the TARGET less dead?

People usually get attacked when they piss someone off.  So if you don't want to get attacked or shot don't piss people off.  And if you see someone piss a person off stay away from the person who pissed the person off, otherwise you might become collateral damage.  

Despite the vast number of guns in America the average person really doesn't have to be worried about getting shot as long as he doesn't go around pissing people off.

You really piss me off.

I have an oooooold friend who works at the paper. He's ok, thank goodness.